But I haven't been there in months.

I have no interest in reading posts from people who despise blacks, muslims, hispanics, and gays.

No thanks.

For a few weeks it was amusing, then it was just vile and stupid.

...on the 30 day window.

I can say "Fuck You" to an idiot on either end of the spectrum and get away with it.

I regret none of them, though.

...at the same time for that particular offense.

I expect I'll eventually get banned from here again for doing it.

Probably from Discussionist, also, if I start posting there, again.

to complain about what those other guys do?

No more of a problem than I have in criticizing what we do here.

And yes, calling somebody who carries their guns into restaurants and stores an "ammosexual" is a bannable offense here at DU, as well as over at Discussionist.

Doesn't stop me from doing it.

I just know what to expect when I do it, that's all.

It was a failed experiment.

I have 504 posts here and 188 at Discussionist.

....

I post a few times a week there.

but it got increasingly disgusting as time passed by, so I no longer go there. Not even to lurk.

for the first time, the day before yesterday, when a DUer alerted me that they were discussing one of my posts.

More than I do here now.

It can be a but exasperating at times but I like the back and forth and the not having to walk on eggshells.

I don't post there frequently, but I do post there.

I get disgusted/burned out/annoyed with the whole online argumentation thing on a fairly regular basis and abstain for a while, I've posted quite a bit there but not in the last few weeks.

It's ultimately futile except in a "posting for the lurkers" sort of sense, none of the hard core posters on any side is suddenly going to flip their thinking 180 degrees.

Reminds me a lot of DU in more than a few ways but there aren't as many really funny posters, except maybe unintendedly. On the other hand possibly the single funniest example of troll fail I've ever seen online was on Discussionist.

recently. The whole thing was horrible. Not my idea of entertainment.

my socialist views.

I spend no time there at all.

It funnels shit away and keeps it out of view, and only the truly deranged visit it.

over there by the righties. When projection and deflection aren't enough the devolve into personal attacks and insults.

Facts mean nothing to them, they simply ignore them. Reason is a foreign concept to them. Most of them are petty and small and more often than not discussion with them is akin to trying to reason with a child in the throes of a tantrum. I now keep my interactions with them to a minimum, when my disgust is at a minimum.

e in a while usually inspired by some mention of it here.

It's fun to debate right wingers. Like shooting fish in a barrel.

I made a decision that this is more horse crap that I do not need in my life.
At my age I figure have have many fewer days ahead than behind me and I do not want to fill them with crap and angst.

I don't see a reason to bath myself daily in shit and acid.

... but quite devolved into a festering cesspool, with the same exact contents. Why the site owners let it go to shit is baffling.

Not sure I want to, either. You know why? I've had to put up with some pretty stupid bullshit here on DU, with me being attacked by a certain few people, every so often, over disagreements on privilege theory, or trying to debunk climate doomer nutjobbery, etc.(as well as one asshat who stalked me every so often for over a year and a half, before I finally permanently put his dumb ass on ignore), but at least I can handle a few *individual* trolls, malcontents, etc. once in a while.

But from what little I've been able to see at Discussionist, the RW trolls often seem to come in groups, and sometimes all at once. And I suspect that whatever enjoyment I *might* get over being able to debunk their whackery would probably be rather quickly overwhelmed by the frustration of just trying to fend them all off. And then there's the racism, misogyny, etc., that I've also spotted on occasion that'd make your average MRA blush in embarrassment.

So, yeah. DU has it's problems, but we're a lot better than Discussionist; that place turned into a shithole pretty quick, and has stayed like that.

Doesn't seem much changed from early last summer and it didn't seem so bad then. Yeah there was that embarrassing thread that didn't get hidden, but the DI members seemed to be denouncing it. Basically it seems to function as a second chance for banned DU members and since but for the grace of dog etc I'm chary of knocking it, if you get my drift. But seriously, it's not that dissimilar from DU as far as I could tell, less fun though because there's no groups or forums. Or front page. It's sort of a Metro screen version of DU which I'm pretty sure was the original motivation -- DU for smartphones. Lacking a smartphone I can't confirm that tho.

All I want it to do is play the current podcast when I start the car. Just play the fucking podcast. I don't want to jab the fucking thing with my finger 8 times to get it to pay attention. It is likely that smart phones are suffering from the results of generational inbreeding.

but too much nasty for my taste after the first few days.

And anyone who is paying attention, knows who I am over there.

It's a different deal than DU, serves a different purpose. Obviously there are some disagreeable folks over there, including some illustrious or infamous names repeatedly banned from DU. But contrary to assertions that it is this, that, or the other, the posters seem to sit across various spectrums, ideologically.

One main and long-served purpose of DU is for us like-minded folk (mostly) to not have to argue with Right Wingers, and DU is good for that. However, that does not mean that all websites need to be like DU.

What I find particularly lame are the oft-repeated demands that it be shut down, or the not-so-subtle intimations that "good" DU members shouldn't ever post over there. Screw that. Every time I see that crap here, it makes me want to post over there more. I'll do what I want, thanks.

I couldn't care less if Discussionist exists forever but I do not agree with allowing the attacks. Skinner obviously tried to redirect those "discussions" in the beginning but was unsuccessful. I'm sure he assumed that eventually people would tire of it, lol. At least Discussionist is no longer advertised over here.

I don't know why anyone would object to how much you post over there.

Why would you care about what somebody wrote on a message board you never read?

The hate-fest over there is far worse than here, so I simply pulled the plug and stopped reading that crap. I suggest putting everyone on disgustingness on ignore.

it is a hate-fest, I kind of think it's worse than conservative cave because it's both the left and right joining in on the hate.

Discussionist certainly has an element of what used to be meta, over here on DU.

It is funny, of course, that some of the people who enjoyed meta the most, then turned around and celebrated its demise, have been the most enthusastic promoters of continued meta-style shennanigans here on DU in the days hence.

i think DI is serving an important function, but part of it initially I suspect was just that elad had some neat ideas for tag-based discussions, that would have amounted to a far too massive overhaul if they had tried to impliment them as DU 4.

This is just speculation, of course. But because DI is structred that way, even though there are some objectionable- to say the least- folks over there, the more open system makes it VERY easy to personalize the experience and only see the shit one wants to.

look of DI and the tags, just not most of the people. . Other than testing out new discussion board design I don't believe DI has any important function.

stated it better.

Also, in reference to your last paragraph, I just wanted to add that not only do I find it lame that so many here demand that it be shut down, I find it pathetic and obnoxious.

I'm sure that any random person coming across the site isn't going to connect it in any way to DU, so people who are worried about the place somehow reflecting negatively on DU can probably relax. Actually, there is much more that goes on here during the course of a normal day that would reflect badly on DU, and I'm not talking about ideology...rather, how a lot of DUers treat other people.

I guess my question for those who want to see DI shut down would be, "Why??"

Under what premise to people think they have...or should have...the right to silence other people, even if the opinions being expressed are objectionable...

Once, not long after I noticed a mention of it, I went there for about 5 seconds. The comments reminded me of freepers.

Why anyone here would bother wasting precious time on discussing the time of day with morons from freeperville is disturbing.

Of course, they are all clueless. MrScorpio lays down the law.

The conservatives on thie Discussionist board are idiots and need to be confronted with facts

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I take it, it is a discussion forum.
Why is there both a "DU" and a "discussionist"?

thanks.

Signed in. Read for 6 to 10 days. Never posted. Haven't been back

I tried to clearly explain that this poll refers to visits over the last 30 days only. Obviously I failed. I signed up too, and for about two months I visited the site every now and then. Haven't been back since.

My fault, Warren

Ran as fast as I could back to DU and never went back.

While the desire to engage rationally with right-wingers is quixotic, to say the least, the reality is dismaying in the extreme. Right-wing extremists are so unintelligent, unenlightened, tawdry, petty, mean-spirited, provincial, parochial, small-minded, inadept and irrational that no amount of reason, logic or level-headedness will ever get through to them.

If you get what I am trying to convey

With your new pair of sneakers .Once was too much .

I would rather check in for a few minutes here each day instead of venturing over there and getting all riled up.

I've got a septic tank in my back yard I could take the top off of if I wanted to swim in piss and shit

info on me,) was posting there, I left....maybe the second day?

But I think I clicked a link in an op that went there just under a month ago.

no need to go wade in amongst the truly crazy. We will never, ever, convince those people of anything.

The RWNJs are bunch of alerting cry babies

They don't believe Tony Perkins fronts a Hate Group