United Nations Convention against Torture at the time, that somehow the U.S. didn't have to follow them. It didn't make sense to me then, and still doesn't.

The Geneva Convention is not just about how signatories will treat each other, but also a governing methodology of how its signatories will act regardless of who is dealt with, unless specified otherwise.

Maybe Iraq could have made that claim, but the US certainly couldn't.

'We're going to shut down Iraq's Torture Chambers'!

Remember that? One of the ever changing reasons why we were going to war in Iraq. And within a few months, we had taken over Saddam's torture chambers and made them even wars!

international law'. The poster tried to tell me that because Iraq had not ratified the agreement, it was null and void in that country. Thanks to you and the other two posters who explained they were full of baloney.

I do remember those words, and the incubator babies, and all the other crap that led up to it. The infamous 'shut down their torture chambers!' is particularly nauseous though, isn't it? Actually, the whole damn thing is. It was then, and even now - especially! when thinking about all they left out of the report they seem to have just casually tossed aside, still makes me sick.

reveal government documents, you are a traitor. And yet the law that states you cannot torture and kill people is so flexible.

Another version:

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It was just "enhanced interrogation"

and mandatory minimums for all convicted of this.

If the Repukes think zero tolerance and mandatories are good for us for a teeny bag of weed, they should have no problem legislating the same for people who commit anal rape and other atrocities.

ZERO TOLERANCE and MANDATORY MINIMUM SENTENCING are suddenly awesome concepts if applied to the worst VIOLENT crimes.

Cops, banks, and government officials have immunity from prosecution and banks and other billionaires own the country. The cops can kill citizens. The banks can gamble billions and get government bailouts while social services get cut. Government officials can spy on citizens and torture and kill suspects. This is getting very, very scary.

Throw out all treaties and morals and blow the fuck out of everything and take what we want.

Call it the NCFPI: "No Consequences Foriegn Policy Initiative"

crimes and crimes against humanity? The media wants solid evidence and a fair hearing for the accused war criminal, no rush to judgment in good old America.

Why does one get the Kangaroo Court and the other is immune in any court?

It's just like a little harmless fraternity hijinx, right?

Period. The RW in this country would rather drop the mask of democracy and go ahead and be the open fascist dictatorship it is is slowly devolving to rather than prosecute or allow to be prosecuted any, and I mean ANY of the BUSHCO war criminals. Just a fact. All our protestations and calls for justice falls on deaf ears,. But don't get me wrong, they sit in their comfy estates toasting the fact that the unwashed masses can at least complain and deflect some of that anger that could turn ugly and get their privilege to stay uber rich and rule the masses taken away. They give less than a damn about the law or codes, international or otherwise and even less about US. They are above such nonsense.............. .....:

Or so they say...I'd love to see them all in prison but it ain't gonna happen.

We have to accept that, come January, NOTHING will be done to follow up on this - UNLESS WE THE PEOPLE FORCE THE ISSUE.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025938692

and

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251390078

Are we a nation of laws, and do these laws apply to everyone?

Should we not have one? Recommended.

...of significance will be held accountable. (I sincerely doubt this will happen though, after all, we have to look forward.)

The higher one goes in either corporate or governmental circles, the less accountable one becomes.

That law does not apply to the nobility and their contracted torturers...if this was still a country that believed in the rule of law, maybe!

But not anymore.

is a rogue nation.

It has a history of not following the law.

It has no intention of following the law in the future.

When the people who hold power over the U.S. government don't like a law, they ignore it or pay to have it changed.

The CIA has been causing havoc the world over for decades.

I don't see anyway to change this.

The U.S. needs outside help.

Many people do not know the history of the United States.

for truth

And what do all the Holy Roller christers have to say about their nation of torturers?

and recommended!