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G_j

(40,367 posts)
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 11:27 AM Dec 2014

Ex-CIA Operative Says Prison Was Punishment for Whistleblowing on Torture

http://abcnews.go.com/International/cia-operative-prison-punishment-whistleblowing-torture/story?id=27474359

Dec 9, 2014, 12:46 PM ET
By BRIAN ROSS

Former CIA officer John Kiriakou is the only CIA employee connected to its interrogation program to go to prison. But he was prosecuted for providing information to reporters, not for anything connected to waterboarding or other actions that today’s Senate Intelligence Committee report calls “torture.”

No other person connected to the program has been charged with a crime, after the Justice Department said their actions had been approved legally or that there was not sufficient admissible evidence in a couple cases of potential wrongdoing, even in light of the death of two detainees in the early 2000s.

Today the Justice Department said that the Senate Intelligence report didn’t provide new information that would lead them to reopen any of the old cases.

“In truth, this is my punishment for blowing the whistle on the CIA’s illegal torture program and for telling the public that torture was official U.S. government policy,” Kiriakou said in a letter last May from a prison in Loretto, Penn. “But that’s a different story.”

In his groundbreaking interview with ABC News and later with other news outlets, Kiriakou described the details of the program which he had been briefed on but never witnessed firsthand. In some cases, it turned out that even Kiriakou, who served briefly as an ABC News consultant, was misled or kept in the dark about the extent of the program.

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Ex-C.I.A. Officer Charged in Information Leak

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/24/us/ex-cia-officer-john-kiriakou-accused-in-leak.html?_r=0

By CHARLIE SAVAGE
Published: January 23, 2012

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department on Monday charged a former Central Intelligence Agency officer with disclosing classified information to journalists about the capture and brutal interrogation of a suspected member of Al Qaeda, Abu Zubaydah — adding another chapter to the Obama administration’s crackdown on leaks.

In a criminal complaint filed on Monday, the Federal Bureau of Investigation accused John Kiriakou, the former C.I.A. officer, of disclosing the identity of a C.I.A. analyst who worked on a 2002 operation that located and interrogated Abu Zubaydah. The journalists included a New York Times reporter, it alleged.

“Safeguarding classified information, including the identities of C.I.A. officers involved in sensitive operations, is critical to keeping our intelligence officers safe and protecting our national security,” said Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr., in a statement.

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Ex-CIA Operative Says Prison Was Punishment for Whistleblowing on Torture (Original Post) G_j Dec 2014 OP
John Kiriakou didn't whistleblow...he bragged on 60 Minutes how well waterboarding msanthrope Dec 2014 #1
Not according to the links above...do you have any links that joeybee12 Dec 2014 #2
Here... msanthrope Dec 2014 #3
Thanks... joeybee12 Dec 2014 #4
He was arrested for the same crime as Scooter Libby...which 5 seconds on google would have msanthrope Dec 2014 #5
You're the one making the claim... joeybee12 Dec 2014 #7
I am sorry you were unable to open the link I provided, or work the google yourself. msanthrope Dec 2014 #8
What do you make of this? Orrex Dec 2014 #9
Holy Shit that was hidden deep on Wikipedia!!! nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #11
Indeed! I had to use the Google to find it. Orrex Dec 2014 #12
You know....sometimes I use the google BEFORE I post about things! msanthrope Dec 2014 #13
Here is a NYT article that says exactly what he was convicted of: okaawhatever Dec 2014 #16
And he's from my town! Orrex Dec 2014 #10
Re: "he bragged on 60 Minutes how well waterboarding works." 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #25
I have a problem w/ this. He *should* be prosecuted along w/ a slew of others... Triana Dec 2014 #6
Telling the Truth about Torture puts a man with integrity in prison. Octafish Dec 2014 #14
What's wrong is that your information is incorrect. Telling the truth about torture didn't put him okaawhatever Dec 2014 #15
Kiriakou outed a CIA agent? 90-percent Dec 2014 #17
He leaked it to a reporter in the hopes of selling his 2010 book. You can find msanthrope Dec 2014 #18
I don't want to spend time on google 90-percent Dec 2014 #19
In addition to leaking the name he also lied to the CIA when he wrote his book and then okaawhatever Dec 2014 #22
The name he leaked is available in a foreign language source that has been used msanthrope Dec 2014 #24
Scooter never went to prison librechik Dec 2014 #21
Um...Mr. Kiriakou pled. He got a deal that was considered light by the judge. msanthrope Dec 2014 #23
Scooter didn't go to prison because Bush commuted his sentence. Prosecutors didn't need to okaawhatever Dec 2014 #26
see, we did prosecute somebody regarding torture magical thyme Dec 2014 #20
 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
1. John Kiriakou didn't whistleblow...he bragged on 60 Minutes how well waterboarding
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 11:58 AM
Dec 2014

works. He defended his involvement in torture, and now, as a former CIA operative, he tries to convince the gullible that he's persecuted.

Like I wrote last night....he's in prison. Not for torture, true. But I once had a client beat an attempted murder charge only to go to prison for perjury.

The victim was just as happy his ass was in prison.


FYI....kiriakou leaked the name of a covert operative to sell his 2010 book...and that's why he was charged. Did you think Scooter Libby should have gone free?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-cia-agent-likely-betrayed-trust-to-sell-book/

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
4. Thanks...
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 12:05 PM
Dec 2014

But I'll go with what the NY Times claims he was arrested for...thanks again...for nothing, because apparently you have nothing.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
5. He was arrested for the same crime as Scooter Libby...which 5 seconds on google would have
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 12:08 PM
Dec 2014

revealed to you....he leaked the name of a covert operative to sell a book. This, after his disgusting performance on 60 minutes....again...available on google.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-cia-agent-likely-betrayed-trust-to-sell-book/

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
7. You're the one making the claim...
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 12:21 PM
Dec 2014

Not my job to try and prove you right...that's the way the game is played.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
8. I am sorry you were unable to open the link I provided, or work the google yourself.
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 12:26 PM
Dec 2014

Then again...those sources would contradict the narrative that Mr. Kiriakou has foisted on the gullible.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
9. What do you make of this?
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 12:27 PM
Dec 2014

After countless hours of difficult and laborious searching, I found this bit carefully hidden in the 3rd paragraph of his Wikipedia entry:

On October 22, 2012, Kiriakou pled guilty to disclosing classified information about a fellow CIA officer that connected the covert operative to a specific operation. Kiriakou thus became the second CIA officer convicted of violation of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act and the first for passing along classified information to a reporter, although the reporter did not publish the name of the operative.


I'm not a lawyer, but it sounds to me like he pled guilty to disclosing classified information about a fellow CIA officer that connected the covert operative to a specific operation.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
16. Here is a NYT article that says exactly what he was convicted of:
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 12:58 PM
Dec 2014
In October, Mr. Kiriakou pleaded guilty to one charge of violating the Intelligence Identities Protection Act when he disclosed to a reporter the name of an agency officer who had been involved in the C.I.A.’s program to hold and interrogate detainees.


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/26/us/ex-officer-for-cia-is-sentenced-in-leak-case.html

Kiriakou received the same sented that I. Scotter Libby did for revealing Valarie Plame's identity.
 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
25. Re: "he bragged on 60 Minutes how well waterboarding works."
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 12:56 PM
Dec 2014

If you're not spreading disinfo, go ahead post the video or some type of proof of him bragging about how well it works or defending the practice.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
6. I have a problem w/ this. He *should* be prosecuted along w/ a slew of others...
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 12:17 PM
Dec 2014

...for supporting torture. NOT for whistleblowing/telling media about it.

We are truly a F*cked Up Nation. (NOT F.U.N.)

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
14. Telling the Truth about Torture puts a man with integrity in prison.
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 12:35 PM
Dec 2014

Torturers collect a pension.

What's wrong with this picture of democracy?

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
15. What's wrong is that your information is incorrect. Telling the truth about torture didn't put him
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 12:55 PM
Dec 2014

in prison. In fact, HE DEFENDED WATERBOARDING!!! He is in jail for outing an undercover CIA officer. He received the same prison sentence as I. Scooter Libby did.

In October, Mr. Kiriakou pleaded guilty to one charge of violating the Intelligence Identities Protection Act when he disclosed to a reporter the name of an agency officer who had been involved in the C.I.A.’s program to hold and interrogate detainees.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/26/us/ex-officer-for-cia-is-sentenced-in-leak-case.html

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
17. Kiriakou outed a CIA agent?
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 09:28 AM
Dec 2014

If John revealed the name of the CIA agent to his co-author, who kept the name secret to this day, how is that outing?

I can understand Scooter outed Valerie Plame, because all of America knows her history working undercover for the CIA because she was outed by Scooter Libby.

Can anybody here tell me the name of the CIA agent Kiriakou outed?

-90% Jimmy

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
18. He leaked it to a reporter in the hopes of selling his 2010 book. You can find
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 09:29 AM
Dec 2014

the name online.

He pled guilty to same.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
19. I don't want to spend time on google
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 11:20 AM
Dec 2014

Is the name of the CIA agent Kiriakou leaked to the reporter been revealed to the public?

My point is leaking the name to one reporter that kept it a secret is a lot less of an outing than Valerie Plame. Her outing resulted in the destruction of her false front field office and perhaps the murders of her undercover double agent contacts? And the end of her career. Has John's outing produced the same consequences for the specific CIA agent he outed?

And I'm not trying to be contentious. I just want to get a clear understanding for the reason John's in prison. If his leaks produced the same consequences as Scooter, then he should indeed be in prison.

I saw John on Olbermann and thought he was a good guy. I should also look at his 60 minutes interview. Anybody in the CIA that is in favor of torture for any reason is UN-American.

-90% Jimmy




okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
22. In addition to leaking the name he also lied to the CIA when he wrote his book and then
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 12:37 PM
Dec 2014

laughed about it over an email. They combined the making a false statement charge with the identity charge. The reporter gave the name to an investigator who gave it to prisoners at Gitmo. There were two names but one was never passed on by the reporter so there was only a charge for one. It is important to note that he gave the ABC interview in 2007 about waterboarding and nothing was done. It wasn't until investigators had pics of CIA agents in 2009 that the investigation began.

According to the Guardian

Prosecutors dispute the notion that Kiriakou was any kind of whistleblower. In court papers, they said the investigation of Kiriakou began in 2009 when authorities became alarmed after discovering that detainees at Guantanamo Bay possessed photographs of CIA and FBI personnel who had interrogated them. The investigation eventually led back to Kiriakou, according to a government affidavit.

The papers indicated that prosecutors believed Kiriakou had leaked the name of a CIA covert operative to a journalist, who disclosed it to an investigator working for the lawyer of a Guantanamo detainee.
 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
24. The name he leaked is available in a foreign language source that has been used
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 12:41 PM
Dec 2014

by AQ. The agent, and his operation, had to be pulled.

The federal judge who sentenced him under his plea deal noted that had he gone to trial she would have given him a lot more time... like decades.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
21. Scooter never went to prison
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 11:23 AM
Dec 2014

And how naive are you to think that prosecutors don't cheat to get their victory in court. It's all they think about, because they all want to keep their crappy jobs.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
23. Um...Mr. Kiriakou pled. He got a deal that was considered light by the judge.
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 12:37 PM
Dec 2014

How did the prosecutor cheat?

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
26. Scooter didn't go to prison because Bush commuted his sentence. Prosecutors didn't need to
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 01:11 PM
Dec 2014

cheat, there was plenty of evidence. John admitted giving the names to the reporter, his defense was that he thought the reporter already knew the identities. Also, John lied to the CIA when he got clearance for writing his book and then laughed about having tricked them in an email. That charge was dropped when he took a plea.

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