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The evidence is clear. War crimes were committed and orders came straight from the top. Any prosecution would most certainly result in conviction IMO.
So...should Obama prosecute and jail Bush and Cheney?
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LawDeeDah
(1,596 posts)Does the President advise the Justice Department to do this? Doesn't this undermine that 'separateness' thing between the 3 branches?
If anyone has a Charge Torturers with War Crimes for Dummies, plse advise. There tends to be a lot of misinformation on how this could be done.
I don't think it will be, or should be. It is a wonderful dream to have those fucking ghouls in jail.
MineralMan
(146,318 posts)anyone with any crime or put anyone in jail. That's not the President's job. Such charges would come from the Attorney General's office, and that would appear to be very unlikely.
It's a shame nobody seems to understand how our government works.
LawDeeDah
(1,596 posts)and it's only all up to him. Thanks for saying it out loud again.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)I'd be fine with extraditing them for prosecution by the Iraqis. If they get convicted over there, they can't be pardoned here and simply walk free.
MineralMan
(146,318 posts)Such a thing is unheard of in the US. I sincerely doubt that any former President will ever be charged for such a thing.
Finally, President Obama has no power to either jail or prosecute anyone. That's not in his job description.
NM_Birder
(1,591 posts)MineralMan
(146,318 posts)What are you talking about, please?
NM_Birder
(1,591 posts)I assumed this poll/question about prosecutions, had to do with the torture document release.
MineralMan
(146,318 posts)The OP did not mention the document's release.
The report was released because it was finished. Why would it not be released, once it was completed?
NM_Birder
(1,591 posts)correct, .....the OP did not mention the document release, my assumption, ....my bad. Nothing to do with the document release.
Question, unrelated to this poll that in no way relates to the current document release.
Why wasn't a prosecution begun the last time torture document release ? were they waiting, ...... for this document to be released ?
I understand you don't know any more than I, but I'm curious what your opinion might be ?
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)sdfernando
(4,935 posts)would be rounded up and hauled over to The Hague and have them tried publicly there for all the world to see!
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)NM_Birder
(1,591 posts)Will he ?
even better question,
If no charges, then why the release ?
And the grand daddy question,
Why wait to release until 3 weeks before facing an adversarial Senate and House ?
jeepers
(314 posts)You would have to indict half if not more of the American populace if you indict Bush and Cheney. I think most Americans either agree with Bush and Cheney or don't care. Remember our nation was conceived by slavers, and genocidal thieves. Exploitation and abuse of the others is the national occupation and we have long reveled in the massacre of innocents.
They are a guilty as hell for sure but they are just scapegoats for our national shame.
LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)And I'm not going to get my rocks off blaming Obama for it not happening. My brain can process nuance.
H2O Man
(73,561 posts)Definitely.
Rex
(65,616 posts)A LOT of ugly truths will have to go down with this one and I think that is why they've kept away from the BFEE and litigation.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)As much as it would do my heart good to see, I doubt that it will happen.