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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKrugman: American Evil - The Bush Administration
As the Bush administration fades away in the rearview mirror, my sense is that many people even liberals are forgetting what it was really like. It becomes, in memory, just another administration whose policies you disapprove of, like the reign of Bush the elder.
But it wasnt. It was an administration that deliberately misled us into war, exploiting an atrocity to pursue an agenda that had nothing to do with that atrocity and causing vast amounts of death and destruction in the process, not to mention undermining American strength.
And it was an administration under which America became a torturer, with the enthusiastic approval of top officials.
This wasnt normal. And if its going be normal from now on, all the more reason to remember the Bush years with horror.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/12/10/american-evil-2/
Right on target, as usual.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)We need it. nt
spanone
(135,898 posts)nobody went to jail, nobody was prosecuted.
bu$h administration devalued all america once stood for.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)and systematically while publically lying about it using a complicit media, all for nothing.
Yes, evil. And the evil continues by the refusal of the same criminals and conspirators to even say the T word.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)on point
(2,506 posts)rustbeltvoice
(432 posts)This is a diversion. Old news. Just pathological anti-Bush.....
Hell, yes...i am being sarcastic.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)TRoN33
(769 posts)My income was considered middle of the middle class. It was good paid. Until that infamous year 2004 budget "showdown" that Bush demanded tax cut for rich while increase taxes on middle class. My income went down, I couldn't afford my car rent (it was nice car), I barely kept up with apartment rent (again it was nice place), and my single life entertainment quickly became much more different. When bank repo my car, I ended up lost good paying job, had to start my life all over. Thanks to W. and his asshole buddies.
That impact isn't felt to this day for me but of course I have not forgotten it. Now W. want to push politically-plebeian brother of his to be our next president? Fuck off.
fishwax
(29,149 posts)I don't think he's ever been wrong on the Bush administration. I will always appreciate the role he played as, seemingly, a lone sane voice in the midst of some strange days indeed.
lark
(23,166 posts)No one else is close. He had no redemming qualities and who he chose to let lead while he was permanently on vacation has shaped this country in terrible ways and has basically gutted our constitutional rights.
LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)Unlike some of the more overwrought people here have done the past few days.
LawDeeDah
(1,596 posts)Yep, you;d think Obama himself supervised the tortures by some head fires here.
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)Hekate
(90,859 posts)JI7
(89,279 posts)pretty much believes . and criticism of Obama and other dems are usually focused on issues, what they should have done etc.
it's only on DU (andsome other internet sites) where you you certain types and there is a good reason for that.
samsingh
(17,601 posts)FairWinds
(1,717 posts)In fact, we have been lied into war on numerous occasions in which
atrocities were exploited (Spanish American War, Mexican War);
and torture is not new either - the US supported it with training
and big money in Iran under the Shah, Latin America (1950's
through 1980's at least), and elsewhere.
These are uncomfortable facts, but they are facts nonetheless.
The real question is WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?
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pscot
(21,024 posts)This is what comes of "looking forward".
JEFF9K
(1,935 posts)or SHOULD!
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Hekate
(90,859 posts)BushCheneyRove just about destroyed my country.
I feel like Cassandra here, because I said over and over (during the BushCheney years) that we were not going to be able to undo the damage in one presidency no matter who we elected. Saying "I told you so" gives me no satisfaction, but every so often I just want to scream it here.
Obama is human and makes mistakes. But he is not the evil monsters that got us here. He's trying to undo it. And it CAN'T be done in one presidency. It might not be undone in what's left of my lifetime either.
Just never, ever forget who actually brought us here, and don't waste time tearing down anyone who is actually trying to get us out. Like, for instance, Dianne Feinstein. The shit I have read about her since the day before she published the report is a classic case of Kill the Messenger.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)"my sense is that many people even liberals are forgetting what it was really like."
Not me. It's hard for me to forget when I can't see how we're ever going to recover from the evil they've done.
And FUCK YEAH!
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)That George W. Bush was the worst President in American history. And this doesn't touch the fact that Bush revived Hoovernomics with similar results before they were cut short with some painful bail outs.
SamKnause
(13,110 posts)Bush family has done to this country when I am in my casket.
That goes for Reagan as well.
Cha
(297,797 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)The vast majority of the comments are not trollish or bot-ish. Very refreshing.
mother earth
(6,002 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)And I will never EVER forgive. EVER.
May each and every one of the horrific lying warmongering scum receive what they so richly deserve - everlasting shame and LONG prison sentences, preferably at Gitmo! (Being imprisoned at Gitmo will never happen for many reasons, but I can dream.)