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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHis death included “dehydration, lack of food, and immobility due to ‘short chaining'
In fact, it is prima facie evidence that torture was used as a first resort, and it was a first resort because Cheney already knew it was the only way to get intelligence. How he knew we dont know. No one in professional interrogation believed or believes it. So you have clear evidence that the decision to torture was taken early on and nothing was allowed to stand in its way. This was an ideological decision not a policy judgment based on evidence.
Heres the truly revealing part. Cheney is told about a prisoner, Gul Rahman, who died after unimaginable brutality beaten, kept awake for 48 hours, kept in total darkness for days, thrown into the Gestapo-pioneered cold bath treatment, and then chained to a wall and left to die of hypothermia. The factors in his death included dehydration, lack of food, and immobility due to short chaining,' this is Cheneys response:
3,000 Americans died on 9/11 because of what these guys did, and I have no sympathy for them. I dont know the specific details I havent read the report I keep coming back to the basic, fundamental proposition: how nice do you want to be to the murderers of 3000 Americans?
But Gul Rahman had nothing whatsoever to do with the 9/11 plot.
http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2014/12/11/watching-cheney-hes-got-nothing/
Erose999
(5,624 posts)finally croaks.
jmowreader
(50,567 posts)I'm going to leave out a really funny part of this story because humor has no place in a torture thread.
When this creepy fucker was Secretary of Defense he came to my unit for a visit, and we were going to give him a tour of the premises. Normally the operations sergeant or the ops officer did it, but Cheney made a request: he wanted a sergeant who came from Wyoming. None of us had. "Has anyone lived in Wyoming?" I went to second grade in Thayne..."You're our boy!"
Just the vibes he puts off make it apparent you could do a movie about Dick Cheney eating children and have it be believed. He is a frighening individual.
LiberalLoner
(9,762 posts)I was escort officer for his daughter Liz. She was actually very nice to me. Dick Cheney made my blood turn to ice in my veins.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)And Cheney and Group invaded that country on false information gotten from torturing a prisoner.
I'm sure the numbers were higher than 3000?
That does not minimize those lives that were lost on 9/11. But two wrongs still do not make a right. Cheney is a criminal. Period.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Rep. Peter King Dismisses Torture Report As Just People In 'Awkward Positions'
Were talking about people being made to stand in awkward positions, have water put into their nose and into their mouth.
Nobody suffered any lasting injuries from this."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/peter-king-torture-report-awkward-positions
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)As G_j pointed out, we're not supposed to ask how their legs got broken.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025937985