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Renew Deal

(81,861 posts)
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 11:56 PM Apr 2012

Should Obama be asked to address the NRA?

Besides the fact that Obama is the sitting president, Obama's record on guns should be satisfactory to the NRA.

Obama has expanded gun rights during his term: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2009/05/national_parks_gun_law_take_ef.html

Gun sales have been up during Obama's term: http://abcnews.go.com/Business/gun-sales-booming-doomsday-obama-zombies/story?id=16073797

The fact is that Obama's policies have made guns more available during his term. Compare that with Romney who said his positions "don't line up with the NRA." http://www.issues2000.org/2012/Mitt_Romney_Gun_Control.htm

Maybe Obama should do more than speak at the NRA. Maybe he should get their endorsement over enemy of the NRA Romney.

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Should Obama be asked to address the NRA? (Original Post) Renew Deal Apr 2012 OP
Your post is a joke, right? badtoworse Apr 2012 #1
Facts NeverEnuff Apr 2012 #2
That would be a coup RobertEarl Apr 2012 #3
I would pay to see that! NYC_SKP Apr 2012 #4
Only 3% of all firearm owners belong to the NRA. Dawson Leery Apr 2012 #5
I know members who don't own firearms. NYC_SKP Apr 2012 #7
Your friend is a dipshit then. Arctic Dave Apr 2012 #9
Probably for the same reason I do badtoworse Apr 2012 #11
The NRA is the biggest shitstain right wing GOP Arctic Dave Apr 2012 #12
Show me a Democratic group effectively lobbying to protect my 2nd Amendment rights and I'll join. badtoworse Apr 2012 #14
Moderate members tend not to attend the conventions bluestateguy Apr 2012 #6
If the nutty NRA asked Obama to speak the NRA members would revolt. They are mostly.... Logical Apr 2012 #8
BS. pinto Apr 2012 #10
"killing zombies" WTF! ROFLMAO!!! Kaleva Apr 2012 #13
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
4. I would pay to see that!
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 12:05 AM
Apr 2012

And to clear thinking members (and don't kid yourselves, readers, plenty of 'lefties' are NRA members and/or supporters of TRTKBR), this would be a winning strategy.

And to the others who would never vote for him anyway, their little heads might explode!

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
7. I know members who don't own firearms.
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 12:11 AM
Apr 2012

The smartest and most progressive friend I have is a member, lives in Santa Cruz, active in the OWS movement there, never owned and AFAOK has never fired a weapon.

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
9. Your friend is a dipshit then.
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 12:19 AM
Apr 2012

If he is a so called progressive why does he give money and power to one of the least progressive organizations in the US?

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
11. Probably for the same reason I do
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 12:23 AM
Apr 2012

They are, by far, the most effective organization out there for protecting our 2nd Amendment rights. RKBA is important to me.

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
12. The NRA is the biggest shitstain right wing GOP
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 12:38 AM
Apr 2012

group there is. To call yourself a democrat and to give them money is the hight of Stockholm Syndrome.

Sorry about your condition.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
14. Show me a Democratic group effectively lobbying to protect my 2nd Amendment rights and I'll join.
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 11:27 AM
Apr 2012

As far as I know, there isn't one and that being the case, I'm going to keep sending checks to the NRA. The real problem is the lack of respect that many Democrats have for gun rights. The NRA will support Democrats that have a good voting record on this issue, but unfortunately, there aren't nearly enough of them.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
6. Moderate members tend not to attend the conventions
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 12:08 AM
Apr 2012

The loonbats are the ones who go to the conventions.

And in fact, Obama's pre-presidential, pre-Senate record on guns is truly bad.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
8. If the nutty NRA asked Obama to speak the NRA members would revolt. They are mostly....
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 12:11 AM
Apr 2012

a bunch of right wing nuts. The speakers this year were the worst idiots the GOP has to offer.


pinto

(106,886 posts)
10. BS.
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 12:21 AM
Apr 2012

The parks gun law was a rider to a very good bill regarding credit card interest rate policies. One of those common practices in federal legislation - attach something extraneous to a bill likely to be passed on the merits of the bill itself.

And, imho, the amendment doesn't seem that onerous, and I'm generally anti lax gun control -

"Under the current regulation, firearms are generally prohibited, but citizens may transport unloaded and dismantled or cased firearms and carry firearms while participating in approved hunting programs and under certain other circumstances," Interior spokeswoman Kendra Barkoff said in a statement released minutes after President Obama signed the credit card holders' bill of rights, which includes an amendment allowing firearms at the nation's National Parks and wildlife refuges.

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The second article notes the spike in sales but attributes it to this -

Buyers in record numbers are flooding into gun stores, retailers say. Ammo, too, is flying off the shelves. The reasons for the spike, last seen in 2009, include fears that a second Obama administration might restrict gun ownership and the popularity of TV shows devoted to doomsday preparation and killing zombies.

"He's never been pro-gun," says Cris Parsons of President Obama. Parsons, 31, owns a Texas gun purveyor called the Houston Armory. So far, Parsons insists, Obama has been "pretty coy" about his antipathy toward guns--and he likely will remain so during the campaign. To do otherwise would "upset a lot of people."

But if Obama wins a second term, he'll have "nothing to lose," says Parsons.

Alan Korwin, author of nine books on gun laws, including "Gun Laws of America," says gun owners are worried that the president, as a lame duck, will clamp down as never before on gun ownership.

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And the third citation has nothing to do with Obama at all.



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Kaleva

(36,309 posts)
13. "killing zombies" WTF! ROFLMAO!!!
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 12:40 AM
Apr 2012

"Buyers in record numbers are flooding into gun stores, retailers say. Ammo, too, is flying off the shelves. The reasons for the spike, last seen in 2009, include fears that a second Obama administration might restrict gun ownership and the popularity of TV shows devoted to doomsday preparation and killing zombies. "

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