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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"We tortured some folks" = "We committed crimes"
Where are the prosecutions as per the rule of law?
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"We tortured some folks" = "We committed crimes" (Original Post)
whatchamacallit
Dec 2014
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There are now at least two systems of law in operation in this country. One system for
KingCharlemagne
Dec 2014
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KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)1. There are now at least two systems of law in operation in this country. One system for
working class and poor people (see Ferguson, MO) and another system for the powerful, well-to-do and connected. I'll leave it to you to decide into which camp the (alleged) torturers fall.
tecelote
(5,122 posts)5. You mean there is a system of law for for the wealthy and powerful?
I haven't seen it.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)10. The 'system' that allows a Jaime Dimon to call up Eric Holder and
negotiate a larger financial settlement to make criminal charges 'go away.' The poor and working class don't have access to that system.
Please allow Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone to explain:
Because you can't send hundreds of thousands of people to court every year on broken-taillight-type misdemeanors and expect people to sit still while yet another coroner-declared homicide goes unindicted. It just won't hold. If the law isn't the same everywhere, it's not legitimate. And in these neighborhoods, what we have doesn't come close to looking like one single set of laws anymore.
When that perception sinks in, it's not just going to be one Eric Garner deciding that listening to police orders "ends today." It's going to be everyone. And man, what a mess that's going to be.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-police-in-america-are-becoming-illegitimate-20141205?page=2
When that perception sinks in, it's not just going to be one Eric Garner deciding that listening to police orders "ends today." It's going to be everyone. And man, what a mess that's going to be.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-police-in-america-are-becoming-illegitimate-20141205?page=2
Just substitute 'torture and crimes against humanity' for 'coroner-declared homicide'.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)2. Are you being too sanctimonious? n/t
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)4. Apparently so
Universal justice is such a quaint, pre 9/11 concept.
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)3. If one is fearful, then laws don't count
bigtree
(86,005 posts)6. We raped some folks. We electrocuted some folks. We murdered some folks.
Abby Martin ?@AbbyMartin 1h1 hour ago
"We tortured some folks. We raped some folks. We electrocuted some folks. We murdered some folks. We droned a whole bunch of folks." #obama
"We tortured some folks. We raped some folks. We electrocuted some folks. We murdered some folks. We droned a whole bunch of folks." #obama
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)8. Wow... +1
Good find.
polichick
(37,152 posts)7. America's new motto: "Liberty and justice, my ass!"