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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMore on why increasing H1B visas for scarce STEM jobs makes no sense.
The "shortage" of highly trained engineers and scientists to fill STEM jobs -- which employers point to when they demand an increase in H1B visas -- doesn't exist. It's a manufactured crisis designed to keep wages and benefits low.
And here's another way they keep wages low.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/science/2014/12/10/solving-postdoc-problem-national-report-suggests-higher-pay-better-mentoring/GaI3uLT1JmdxaylZHmdIdM/story.html
An exhaustive, 120-page national report on the state of scientific postdoctoral researchers released Wednesday urges a range of reforms to ensure that thousands of well-educated scientists do not spend their most creative years in low-paid training for jobs that are in scarce supply.
The report, released by three of the most prestigious national organizations in science, engineering, and medicine, suggests postdoctoral researchers should receive higher salaries, better mentoring, and a time limit on how long they can work in those jobs.
Although the authors say the problems facing the workers in the training pipeline have been gnawing at the research community for decades, they argue that the situation has become more urgent as the number of postdoctoral researchers has increased but the number of faculty jobs has not kept pace.
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Two key pressures have begun to turn that last step in the training pipeline into a trap. First, the number of trainees far outnumber the faculty jobs they seek. That means many people are spending years treading water in postdoc positions, where they are often treated by their advisers -- called principal investigators -- less as trainees and more as cheap labor. That trend has occurred as the principal investigators have found themselves in intensive competition for limited research funding, which creates an incentive to build large and highly productive laboratories filled with postdocs who can help produce high-profile findings.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/10/04/glut-postdoc-researchers-stirs-quiet-crisis-science/HWxyErx9RNIW17khv0MWTN/story.html
But in recent years, the postdoc position has become less a stepping stone and more of a holding tank. Some of the smartest people in Boston are caught up in an all-but-invisible crisis, mired in a biomedical underclass as federal funding for research has leveled off, leaving the supply of well-trained scientists outstripping demand.
Its sunk in that its by no means guaranteed for anyone, really that an academic position is possible, said Gary McDowell, 29, a biologist doing his second postdoc at Tufts University who hopes to set up his own lab in a few years. Theres this huge labor force here to do the bench work, the grunt work of science. But then theres nowhere for them to go; this massive pool of postdocs that accumulates and keeps growing.
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Postdocs fill an essential, but little-known niche in the scientific pipeline. After spending 6 to 7 years on average earning a PhD, they invest more years of training in a senior scientists laboratory as the final precursor to starting labs where they can explore their own scientific ideas.
In the Boston area, where more than 8,000 postdocs largely in the biosciences are estimated to work, tough job prospects are more than just an issue of academic interest. Postdocs are a critical part of the scientific landscape that in many ways distinguishes the region they are both future leaders and the workers who carry out experiments crucial for science to advance.
renate
(13,776 posts)This used to be the land of opportunity for everyone; now it's not even a land of opportunity for people with PhDs.
daredtowork
(3,732 posts)The government should have been investing money in training students for these jobs that we supposedly desperately need to import labor for.
Sense it makes not.
My personal feeling is the logjam is in the hiring system. There is some problem with the old fashioned hiring manager, cover letter, multiple interviews, three recommendations system. The process is too inefficient on the job-seeker side: if work isn't obtained within the first few tries it turns into a ridiculous amount of unpaid labor. And there is something soul-killing about constantly doing "interview performance" as well. At the same time, the process seems to be inefficient for business as well if they are turning to imported labor instead of hiring from the existing labor pool.
I wish somebody - Congress or some semi public-private initiatives would go at the problem from this angle. Job-seekers don't need more "how to write a resume" work readiness programs. They need to be directly connected with jobs, and companies need to be directly connected with job seekers. It is the traditional METHOD of seeking/gaining employment that is inefficient and that is getting in the way.
Also, here is a good article that doesn't just apply to men:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/12/upshot/unemployment-the-vanishing-male-worker-how-america-fell-behind.html
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)A human being can read a resume and figure out that someone who knows how to analyze beet production has skills that could transfer to analyzing turnip production. A computer will screen someone out who doesn't match specific search terms.
daredtowork
(3,732 posts)Also in the tech world there is the fraught issue of who is lying on their resumes. Apparently when agencies that import labor are involved, they do the lying on behalf of their employees.
I have a personal theory that this is why there are fewer women in the programming arena: they would hesitate to tell significant lies on their resume. Then they stand by aghast as the men who didn't hesitate (and they know it) pass them by.
When I was an admin assistant it used to drive me nuts when the $200/hr "technical person" would ask me how to do stuff in javascript/dhtml (then spend the rest of the time on his cellphone asking his buddies how to do everything else). I was making $10/hr.
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)Men are more likely than women to try to bluff their way through -- and often succeed that way.