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hay rick

(7,624 posts)
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 10:27 PM Dec 2014

An Obama derangement Christmas.

My wife and I were invited to a homeowner's association Christmas party in a nearby community. My wife had volunteered to help serve and clean up so I spent most of the evening sitting at a table with strangers. I had several pleasant conversations with my new acquaintances- until the very last one. The conversation went something like this:

her: So Obama didn't go to the Army-Navy game...
me: silence
her: I think he sent Hagel instead...
me: silence
her: isn't he done for?
me: silence
her, shaking her head: it's such a disaster...
me: looking elsewhere- if she continued she would be talking to herself...

I am not an Obama fan but the Obama-haters earn my immediate and final contempt.

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Cha

(297,314 posts)
1. Well, I am an Obama fan who supports the President and yes the hate and ignorance is every
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 10:35 PM
Dec 2014

fucking where.

struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
2. The games were stopped under Grover Cleveland:
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 10:39 PM
Dec 2014
... The highlight/lowlight of the 1893 Army-Navy game happened when an Army-supporting brigadier general and a Navy-supporting rear admiral got into an argument over the game (which was a hotly contested low-scoring game won by Navy 6-4, bringing their record to 3-1 in the four match-ups). The argument escalated to the point where the two men decided to have a duel ... In February of 1894, President Grover Cleveland actually called a special cabinet meeting to discuss the Army-Navy Game. By this point, the superintendent of the Military Academy, Oswald Ernst, had already conducted his own investigation into football at West Point ... He recommended to the Secretary of War, Daniel S. Lamont, that the games be cancelled in the future. So, at the cabinet meeting, Lamont brought this to the attention of the others present and by the end of the meeting, Lamont and Secretary of the Navy Hillary A. Herbert agreed to end the rivalry ... Rather than outright canceling the game, they both just issued general orders that both the Military Academy and the Naval Academy could only play football games at their home fields ...

Sports Legend Revealed: Did the annual Army-Navy Game draw two U.S. Presidents into the planning of the game and the future of football itself?
NOVEMBER 2, 2010 | 4:17 PM
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2010/11/sports-legend-revealed-did-the-annual-army-navy-game-draw-two-us-presidents-into-the-planning-of-the.html

TBF

(32,064 posts)
3. He's a little conservative for me but
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 10:41 PM
Dec 2014

I can not tolerate the nonsense either. If they have policy to discuss I will do it - at which time they will be in shock when I explain the ills of capitalism - but I'm not going to listen to racist gibberish.

struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
4. A “Trifecta” of Nonsense
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 10:43 PM
Dec 2014

Posted on January 8, 2010

... While it’s true that Obama did not attend the Army-Navy game .. at Lincoln Financial Field in Philadelphia, he was by no means the first president to miss the game ... Lyndon B. Johnson didn’t attend a single one during his entire presidency. Neither did George H.W. Bush. Jimmy Carter didn’t attend any, even though he was a graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy. And neither did Dwight D. Eisenhower, who had actually played in the 1912 game as a cadet, when he started at halfback for West Point ... George W. Bush attended in 2001, 2004 and 2008, but not in the other five years of his presidency, according to a list of presidential appearances at Army-Navy football games compiled by James W. Cheevers, associate director and senior curator of the U.S. Naval Academy Museum. Cheevers’ list also notes that when Bill Clinton attended in 1996, he was the first president in 22 years to do so, and that when Harry Truman attended in 1945, he was the first sitting president to go since Calvin Coolidge in 1926 ...

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/01/a-trifecta-of-nonsense/

hay rick

(7,624 posts)
7. Recycled nonsense.
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 10:52 PM
Dec 2014

I assumed that she was regurgitating a Fox News talking point but spared myself the burden of further details. Give them credit for their recycling efforts.

Freddie

(9,267 posts)
6. The haters seem to think that everyone agrees with them
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 10:45 PM
Dec 2014

Happens to me fairly often, an innocent conversation with someone I don't know well...I just change the subject.
My son works PT at a bank while he's in college. He just got home from the Christmas party at his boss's house and told me his boss "is a nice guy but he talks about politics all the time and he's on the opposite side of me." Young people don't always realize that the best way to handle your RWNJ boss is to say "yessir, how about them Eagles?"

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
8. With all the crap going on in DC they be hollering if he did go...
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 11:20 PM
Dec 2014

just remind her bush didn't go too many times himself

The Army-Navy game compiled by the Hauenstein Center for Presidential Studies, presidents such as Herbert Hoover, Franklin Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, and George H.W. Bush were not present for any Army-Navy football games throughout their terms of office
In fact Clinton was the first to attend in 22 yrs. in 1996

http://hauensteincenter.org/the-presidents-game/


steve2470

(37,457 posts)
9. the conservatives always feel free to spew their crap at all times...
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 11:23 PM
Dec 2014

It makes social occasions very tense for me, because I will NOT get into arguments with ignorant idiots. I support the Democratic Party and President Obama, and I agree with your contempt.

hay rick

(7,624 posts)
11. You're smart.
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 11:40 PM
Dec 2014

I offered to help clean up and was told I wasn't needed. It would have spared me that last bit of conversation.

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