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Triana

(22,666 posts)
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 02:08 AM Dec 2014

Economist Richard D. Wolff: Going Beyond Private vs Public




The new, more Republican Congress may "privatize" the United States Postal Service: dismantle the public enterprise and turn mail services over to private enterprises. Such a privatization would mimic what the US military has done with part of its activities and what many states and cities did with utilities, transport systems and schools. Privatizers always assert that private enterprises function more efficiently and will thus cost society less than public enterprises.

Evidence for such assertions ranges from slim to none.
For example, the pendulum often swings the other way (for example, during the Great Depression of the 1930s, after World Wars I and II, and in the 2008 crisis). Then, private enterprises were transformed into public enterprises. Officials always assured us that those public enterprises would get us out of crisis sooner and better than private enterprises could or would; in short, the public enterprise was the more efficient way to go.

Recently, debates, conflicts and even street battles for and against privatization have revived. From the 1970s to 2008, neoliberal politicians, media and academics celebrated privatization with endless repetitions of the efficiency rationale. Many liberals, leftists and socialists responded by demonizing privatization as merely means to raise profits at workers' and citizens' expenses. Yet they discovered, especially after 2007, that government takeovers are often bailouts of capitalists also at workers' and citizens' expenses.

Battles over privatization should not distract anyone from the more basic and ultimately more socially consequential struggles emerging now. These turn on 1) democratic versus capitalistically organized enterprises; 2) egalitarian versus extremely unequal distributions of wealth and income; and 3) capitalism versus new socialist visions. Struggles over these issues should take precedence over battles for or against privatization.



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Economist Richard D. Wolff: Going Beyond Private vs Public (Original Post) Triana Dec 2014 OP
They generally also externalize some costs to society so they appear cheaper on point Dec 2014 #1
Privatization is often code for busting unions 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #2
Privatization of everything is what the far Right wants and always has. sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #3
Lots of poor grammar skills there. Igel Dec 2014 #4
http://rdwolff.com/ - also the article allows comments Triana Dec 2014 #5
K/R marmar Dec 2014 #6

on point

(2,506 posts)
1. They generally also externalize some costs to society so they appear cheaper
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 02:21 AM
Dec 2014

But if total system cost accounting were in place to make like comparisons between private and public we almost always find the private is actually MORE expensive, not cheaper. They appear cheaper only because they are hiding costs.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
2. Privatization is often code for busting unions
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 02:54 AM
Dec 2014

Unions of late have had more success organizing in the public sector, for whatever reason.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
3. Privatization of everything is what the far Right wants and always has.
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 03:09 AM
Dec 2014

And they have succeeded to a great extent.

And look where we are.


Igel

(35,320 posts)
4. Lots of poor grammar skills there.
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 10:53 AM
Dec 2014

"Privatizers always assert that private enterprises function more efficiently and will thus cost society less than public enterprises."

True, that's the claim. However, the writer argues against another proposition: "Privatizers assert that private enterprises always function more efficiently and will thus cost society less than public enterprises."

They're far from the same assertion.

Later, we read, "Officials always assured us that those public enterprises would get us out of crisis sooner and better than private enterprises could or would; in short, the public enterprise was the more efficient way to go."

However, in the '30s the goal wasn't efficiency defined as unit production/dollar. The goal was increased employment. The government had money to spend. It could increase the scope of a service when business couldn't and subsidize inefficiency when that would have been fatal to a private business.

"Yet they discovered, especially after 2007, that government takeovers are often bailouts of capitalists also at workers' and citizens' expenses."

It's not clear at whose expense most of the bailouts in 2008 and early 2009 were. Most of the monies used in the "bailout" were returned with interest. Somehow I fail to see how my loaning out money at interest and seeing the loan repaid is all that seriously "at my expense," and I find the administrator's bookkeeping on the matter to be deceitful: It misses opportunity costs and only counts income versus expenses in its calculations in a purely CYA-based effort to avoid criticism. But perhaps the writer isn't speaking in terms of dollars and cents, at least in that sentence. Perhaps it's a wider social issue. So let's look there.

The reason the recession was so devastating is found in the defense given Obama when his administration's predictions--those that could be tested--failed. It wasn't just a recession, it was a fiscal crisis as well. By 3/09 or so the fiscal crisis itself was over, actions taken from 10/08 to 3/09 settled things down enough for crisis management to be considered bipartisan and a reasonable success. What was left was a liquidity crunch and the fall-out from the fiscal crisis. Had the fiscal crisis continued, the crunch would have been far worse and the effects far longer lasting. We complain about how the economy in 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 failed to recover quickly enough; how it devastated lower- and middle-class savings and wealth. Imagine how it would have not been at the public's expense if 2009 had continued until 2012 and the recovery started in 2013. Apparently the writer would say that would be to the public's benefit? (If so, the writer has a restricted view of "public," and decrees a large portion of Americans as "not part of the public" or perhaps "not really people."

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
5. http://rdwolff.com/ - also the article allows comments
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 12:04 PM
Dec 2014

It might be worth it to submit you comments to Richard D. Wolff via his website and/or to leave this comment at the article itself. He might be interested to read your thoughts.

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