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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 12:54 PM Dec 2014

What a billionaire makes an hour.



Warren Buffett: He made $12.7 billion this year or ~$37 million per day; ~$1.54 million per hour; or ~$25,694 per minute.

Bill Gates: He earned $11.5 billion this year which works out to be ~$33.3 million per day; $1.38 million per hour; or ~$23,148 per minute.

Sheldon Adelson: The casino mogul earned $11.4 billion this year which means he made ~$33 million per day; ~$1.38 million per hour; or $22,946 per minute.

Jeff Bezos: He made $11.3 billion this year or ~$32.7 million per day; $1.36 million per hour; or ~$22,745 per minute.

Mark Zuckerberg: The Facebook founder made $10.5 billion this year or ~$30.4 million per day; ~$1.27 million per hour; or ~$21,135 per minute.

Masayoshi Son: He made $10.3 billion this year or ~$29.86 billion per day; ~$1.24 million per hour; or $20,732 per minute.

Sergey Brin: He made $9.3 billion this year which works out to be ~$26.9 million per day, $1.12 million per hour; or $18,719 per minute.

Larry Page: He made $9.3 billion this year which works out to be ~$26.9 million per day, $1.12 million per hour; or $18,719 per minute.

Lu Chee Woo: He brought in $8.3 billion this year or ~$24 million per day; ~$1 million per hour; or ~$16,706 per minute.

Carl Icahn: The billionaire investor made $7.2 billion this year, which works out to be ~$20.87 million/day; ~$869,565/hour; or ~$14,492/minute.

SOURCE: http://www.businessinsider.com/what-warren-buffett-makes-per-hour-2013-12

So, a billionaire makes about as much as the average schmuck working three part-time, minimum wage jobs for a year, per minute. Then, they move it offshore.
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What a billionaire makes an hour. (Original Post) Octafish Dec 2014 OP
K&R 99Forever Dec 2014 #1
They moved $32 Trillion Offshore. It NEVER Trickled Down. NEVER. Octafish Dec 2014 #6
Great aticle. Worth posting separately also. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #10
The only trickle down is violence and oppression and austerity. JEB Dec 2014 #30
No adequate words for the obscenity of this, woo me with science Dec 2014 #2
I am so glad the Democratic President would veto such outrageous legislation. Octafish Dec 2014 #5
+1000 abelenkpe Dec 2014 #15
$25,000 a minute, eh? Cleita Dec 2014 #3
These are the times of the greatest wealth in history. Octafish Dec 2014 #4
Nope. None left. Nt abelenkpe Dec 2014 #16
Really drives it home whatchamacallit Dec 2014 #7
You are most welcome, whatchamacallit. Octafish Dec 2014 #8
K&R. Thanks for posting. Great reference material. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #9
The Koch Brothers’ Governors: Butlers Selling the Public’s Silver Octafish Dec 2014 #29
Your calculations assume they are "working" 24x7... Thor_MN Dec 2014 #11
There are 1,440 minutes in a day... MrScorpio Dec 2014 #12
Sweet. Octafish Dec 2014 #23
Well Done, Scorp ProfessorGAC Dec 2014 #25
Enjoying a leisurely round of golf? Or home in bed? moondust Dec 2014 #13
They deserve it! They work harder. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #14
In the case of many TBF Dec 2014 #19
None of them "earn" that much money Martin Eden Dec 2014 #17
Bumpity bump K&R nt TBF Dec 2014 #18
Thanks Fish... I'm home looking out my window at a guy who is SomethingFishy Dec 2014 #20
The concentration of unelected power... Octafish Dec 2014 #22
Is one of those "producers" going to "trickle down" in the "taker's" hat? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #21
K&R Scuba Dec 2014 #24
Barely pay any taxes madokie Dec 2014 #26
I can see why they tend to be angry BeyondGeography Dec 2014 #27
He, he, he, he, he...didn't see any she in that list. Frustratedlady Dec 2014 #28
K&R for the original post and subsequent informative posts and links. JEB Dec 2014 #31
oh come on, not more class warefare!! G_j Dec 2014 #32

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
6. They moved $32 Trillion Offshore. It NEVER Trickled Down. NEVER.
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 01:18 PM
Dec 2014

Wanna know where a lot of the money "gained" over 32 years of Trickle Down economics -- including a buttload "lost" in the great Bankster Bailout -- went?



Check Out Who's Hiding $32 Trillion in Offshore Tax Haven Accounts

EXCERPT...

Some $32 trillion has been hidden in small island banking hubs which host a bevy of trust funds, shell corporations and other tax havens, the Tax Justice Network estimates.

SNIP...

The information is still being sifted through, even as it's being released to the public, but here's some of what's been found so far:

■American Denise Rich, ex-wife of pardoned tax cheat Marc Rich, has been uncovered as the settlor and beneficiary of two large trusts based in the tiny Cook Islands. The ICIJ found that Denise Rich gave up her American citizenship in 2012. Her citizenship was convenient enough when President Clinton had the authority to pardon her ex-husband.
■French President Francois Hollande, ardent socialist and tireless champion of the 75% marginal tax rate, appears in these documents, mostly by association. His campaign co-treasurer, Jean-Jacques Augier, has been forced to reveal the name of his Chinese business partner in a Caymans-based distribution company. Augier says he used his offshore company to make a large investment in China.
■Australian actor Paul Hogan, of "Crocodile Dundee" fame, has lost about $35.3 million from an account that he used to offshore his "bonza" film royalties. His once-trusted tax adviser Philip Egglishaw ran off with Hogan's sizeable hidden offshore stash.
■French banking scion Elie de Rothschild, of the famous banking family, has been named in the leaks. He was instrumental in setting up some 20 trusts and 10 holding companies in the Cook Islands, all extremely opaque in nature. His heirs have, not surprisingly, refused comment.
■Brigitte Bardot's third ex-husband, Gunter Sachs, a millionaire industrialist, has been revealed as the owner of a huge, obscure wealth-masking machine: trust upon shell company upon holding company, almost ad infinitum, mostly based in the Cook Islands. The ICIJ has constructed an interactive map of Sachs' extensive offshore holdings and business networks. The network is fairly representative of the steps that many on this list have taken to hide their wealth away. You can marvel at its imponderable complexity here.


And these names are barely the tip of the iceberg. The shockwaves have already begun to spread through the corridors of wealth and power all over the world.

How Much is $32 Trillion?

It bears repeating: $32 trillion has been stashed away, off the books, by corporations and wealthy individuals.

CONTINUED...

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article40250.html



Offshore loot also represents money made from trafficking in drugs, guns and people. So...what can we do about it?



On My Mind

Tax Offshore Wealth Sitting In First World Banks

James S. Henry
07.01.10, 09:00 AM EDT
Forbes Magazine dated July 19, 2010

Let's tax offshore private wealth.

How can we get the world's wealthiest scoundrels--arms dealers, dictators, drug barons, tax evaders--to help us pay for the soaring costs of deficits, disaster relief, climate change and development? Simple: Levy a modest withholding tax on untaxed private offshore loot.

Many aboveground economies around the world are struggling, but the economic underground is booming. By my estimate, there is $15 trillion to $20 trillion in private wealth sitting offshore in bank accounts, brokerage accounts and hedge fund portfolios, completely untaxed.

SNIP...

This wealth is concentrated. Nearly half of it is owned by 91,000 people--[font color="green"]0.001% of the world's population[/font color]. Ninety-five percent is owned by the planet's wealthiest 10 million people.

SNIP...

Is it feasible? Yes. The majority of offshore wealth is managed by 50 banks. As of September 2009 these banks accounted for $10.8 trillion of offshore assets--72% of the industry's total. The busiest 10 of them manage 40%.

CONTINUED....

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0719/opinions-taxation-tax-havens-banking-on-my-mind.html



Not only would that money balance the budget, erase the debt and fix the nation and world's problems from hunger and homeless to energy and education; it would free humanity to do better things than make war all the time.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
10. Great aticle. Worth posting separately also.
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 02:11 PM
Dec 2014

If it is posted in a separate thread then we can bookmark it and use it as a reference.

Thanks.

And if it isn't too much trouble, please send me a message so that I can recommend it again. Thanks.

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
30. The only trickle down is violence and oppression and austerity.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 12:29 PM
Dec 2014

Lies and propaganda and bread and circuses. I'm down here near the bottom, but I don't see a way out. Looks to me like the upper class got the whole thing sewed up.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
2. No adequate words for the obscenity of this,
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 12:59 PM
Dec 2014

Or the evil of whoring politicians who then lecture us that food stamp cuts are necessary.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
3. $25,000 a minute, eh?
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 12:59 PM
Dec 2014

I'm expected to live on less than that in a year with my Social Security.

Is there no social justice left?

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
4. These are the times of the greatest wealth in history.
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 01:15 PM
Dec 2014

Yet, we are to do with less so those with more can get more.

Mention this out loud and people look at me like I was channeling Trotsky.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
8. You are most welcome, whatchamacallit.
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 01:29 PM
Dec 2014


The game is unfair when the playing field is tilted downhill for the rich team (tilt adjusted each quarter or half -- depending on whether using the Wall Street or The City version of the Rules), stadium is filled with fans from the rich team only, the referees get off the same bus as the rich team, the goal post is moved closer when the rich team has the ball and further when they don't, the rich team gets to drink water and the other team doesn't, and the rules are decided by the rich team...

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
29. The Koch Brothers’ Governors: Butlers Selling the Public’s Silver
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:16 AM
Dec 2014

by JEFFREY SOMMERS and MICHAEL HUDSON
CounterPunch, Dec. 12-14, 2014

The Koch Brothers are the closest thing the United States has to Russia’s oligarchs. They fuse ownership of the economy and state, using the latter to enrich themselves while making private gains through the public’s losses. Their idea of a “market economy” is to buy government officials and the assets they privatize at giveaway prices.

The top three butlers at the Koch’s nouveau riche ‘Downton Abbey’ are Governors Sam Brownback of Kansas, Wisconsin’s Scott Walker, and Chris Christie of New Jersey. All three ran elections based on the anti-Keynesian oxymoron of promoting job creation by balancing budgets with regressive tax plans. All declared that cutting taxes (chiefly on their wealthy campaign contributors) was the way to achieve their goal (more campaign contributions). All have served at least one term in office and the results are in: Their rates of job creation and income growth are way below the national average. Rather than closing budget deficits, tax cuts create them – providing more excuse to privatize state assets, post-Soviet style.

Brownback simply hopes to stay on the job as governor of the state where the Kochs’ corporate headquarters are located. Despite flagging poll numbers, he remained in office thanks to a mildly tawdry incident involving his Democratic opponent’s youthful visit to a strip club (in the era of talk radio and Fox News, anything can be manufactured into a scandal). Christie and Walker, by contrast, have presidential aspirations and are raising funding as the two top prospects from the Kochs’ political farm team.

The looming public danger ahead is how these Koch governors will ‘repair’ the fiscal potholes their tax policies are creating. Chanting the GOP refrain of ‘lower tax rates good, higher taxes bad’ as their stage-magic abracadabra, they proselytize Arthur Laffer’s cocktail napkin ‘Laffer Curve’ depicting lower tax rates delivering higher tax revenues as a sacred scroll – its inevitable failure leading to privatization of rent-extracting opportunities in a Yeltsin-like post-Soviet policy under the banner of free markets.

All three Koch Governors are following this fiscal folly of widening budget deficits. The effect is to force more cutbacks in public services, with sermons exhorting voters to tighten their belts while the Kochs gorge themselves on the tax cuts enacted by their pet governors.

CONTINUED...

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/12/12/the-koch-brothers-governors-butlers-selling-the-publics-silver/

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
11. Your calculations assume they are "working" 24x7...
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 02:49 PM
Dec 2014

Given the normal work year, 2080 hours, opposed to 8766 hours in a year, they would be 'earning" over 4 times as much per work minute...

They don't work nearly that hard.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
12. There are 1,440 minutes in a day...
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 02:50 PM
Dec 2014

Last edited Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:01 AM - Edit history (1)

Let's covert each of those minutes into a year's wages per taxpayer… $25,694 from Buffett's amount let's say… Heck double that and you have over 50,000 dollars. But let's set a minimum wage as $25,694 just for an example.

That would mean that we'd have between 722 to 1,440 people paying individual income, property and other taxes, sales taxes on goods and services and contributing to the economy through purchases thereof. Local governments would have ready revenue for public services, schools and infrastructure improvements.

That circulation of currency would contribute to a more active and robust economy, local businesses would hire more workers and pay better wages from the increase in business. People with jobs that have living income would be less prone to suffer and it would also work to lower the over crime rate.

Basically, by allowing billionaires to hoard all of this money, we're starving the overall economy and everyone's quality of life.




ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
25. Well Done, Scorp
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 09:31 AM
Dec 2014

Nice synopsis. Basically why the economy boomed in the mid-20th century, right? Broader distribution of the money, higher velocity of each individual dollar, goods and service acquired rather than dollars collecting mold.

I concur with you completely

moondust

(19,993 posts)
13. Enjoying a leisurely round of golf? Or home in bed?
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 03:05 PM
Dec 2014

Sleepin' is hard werk!

While many American children go hungry, roads and bridges need serious repair, student debt is astronomical, etc.

Republicans will only make the situation worse but that is apparently what many U.S. voters want judging by recent midterm results.

Absurd failure.

TBF

(32,067 posts)
19. In the case of many
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 03:40 PM
Dec 2014

all they had to do was make it out of the birth canal.

It boggles my mind that this continues ...

Martin Eden

(12,870 posts)
17. None of them "earn" that much money
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 03:13 PM
Dec 2014

It's hard to fathom anyone deserving that much money, even if they found a cure for cancer.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
20. Thanks Fish... I'm home looking out my window at a guy who is
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 03:45 PM
Dec 2014

outside fixing the windows on a house down the street from me. On a Sunday. Not to mention it's 20 degrees and snowing.

But these billionaires, they "work" for their money.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
22. The concentration of unelected power...
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 10:13 PM
Dec 2014

Thanks to the unelected NAZI puppets on the Supreme Court making money into speech and corporations into people:



Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense. We have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security alone more than the net income of all United States corporations.

Now this conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every Statehouse, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet, we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources, and livelihood are all involved. So is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.[1]



When Eisenhower said that in 1961, the top income tax rate was around 90%.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
26. Barely pay any taxes
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 09:33 AM
Dec 2014

but the clincher is then they move it off shore. There ought to be a limit on how much money anyone can accumulate in one lifetime. Not a single one of these people would miss 9/10ths of their money if all of a sudden it was gone.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
28. He, he, he, he, he...didn't see any she in that list.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 09:45 AM
Dec 2014

I'm sure there is one at home and making the social rounds to promote "he" and his realm, but wouldn't you think "they" would let one "she" enter their circle of wealthy warts on the world?

And the "he's" complain about the poor using so much welfare? What is tax dodging?

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
31. K&R for the original post and subsequent informative posts and links.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 12:33 PM
Dec 2014

Open eyes are our last defense.

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