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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 01:04 PM Dec 2014

The Only times Dick Cheney should be on TV is

Is for his






1. His Trial


2. His Execution.





Dick Cheney: We Prosecuted Japanese For 'Other Stuff, Not For Waterboarding'



TODD: When you say waterboarding is not torture, then why did we prosecute Japanese soldiers during World War II for waterboarding?

CHENEY: For a lot of stuff, not for waterboarding... and they did a lot of other stuff. To draw some kind of moral equivalent between waterboarding, judged by our Justice Department not to be torture and what the Japanese did with the Bataan March and the slaughter of thousands of Americans, with the rape of Nanking and all the other crimes they committed, that's an outrage.

It's a really cheap shot Chuck to even try to draw a parallel between the Japanese who were prosecuted for war crimes after World War II and what we did with the waterboarding of three individuals, all of whom were guilty and participate in the 9-11 attacks.

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/12/dick-cheney-we-prosecuted-japanese-other


I stole the OP title from one of the comments
on C&Ls

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The Only times Dick Cheney should be on TV is (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Dec 2014 OP
In a just society, he would be incriminating himself leading to his day Cleita Dec 2014 #1
Meanwhile History gets re written Ichingcarpenter Dec 2014 #3
The fact that anyone would be willing onecaliberal Dec 2014 #2
Trial yes. No execution. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #4
I am too but Ichingcarpenter Dec 2014 #6
I'm glad I watched that interview live malaise Dec 2014 #5
As I am against capital punishment, I must add Option #3... Octafish Dec 2014 #7
I am too but Ichingcarpenter Dec 2014 #8
Thanks, Ichingcarpenter! Octafish Dec 2014 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Cooley Hurd Dec 2014 #10
That is perfection! Cooley Hurd Dec 2014 #11
I want add something else Cheney said which is criminal Ichingcarpenter Dec 2014 #12
Somewhat agree Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #13
the dick thinks because he says something, it's true. we call that delusional. spanone Dec 2014 #14
He should be wearing an orange jumpsuit for the rest of his life. Initech Dec 2014 #15

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
1. In a just society, he would be incriminating himself leading to his day
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 01:07 PM
Dec 2014

in court. Too bad our criminal justice system is corrupt too.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
3. Meanwhile History gets re written
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 01:17 PM
Dec 2014

I couldn't watch the crooks and liars video but read the transcript...... I didn't want to throw up

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)
2. The fact that anyone would be willing
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 01:10 PM
Dec 2014

To put that embodiment of evil on teevee demonstrates there is nothing low enough to air for corporate news. They will go to any length to lie and misinform for low intellect, racist reptilian republican voter.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
4. Trial yes. No execution.
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 01:17 PM
Dec 2014

I'm against the death penalty with every fiber of my body and soul. Just hearing the words makes me literally sick.

No one, not even murderers, deserves death. Life in prison will be suffice.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
5. I'm glad I watched that interview live
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 01:19 PM
Dec 2014

That is one shameless ReTHUG scumbag war criminal. He should not be allowed in civilized society.

Of course what he and the Bush scumbag won't say is that their failure to keep the country safe is the reason for the entire mess.
His foreign policy is the reason for ISIS and if he defines torture as only what it done to Americans, he is in for a rude awakening because others have their views on this as well.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
7. As I am against capital punishment, I must add Option #3...
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 01:24 PM
Dec 2014

Only if tried and convicted: I recommend Cheney and the rest of the traitors who lied America into illegal, immoral, unnecessary and disastrous wars for profit be placed in well-lit cells for solitary confinement, where their only entertainment are books and other reading material -- no pornography -- where they are observed by public webcam 24/7/366.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
8. I am too but
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 01:35 PM
Dec 2014

like I said I copied the comment because of the sardonic snark.

I remember some old TV show were the third option was the whole story....It was disturbing ...Oh yeah...... number 3 ......was watched on the prisoner.
.
There were other ones but they were disturbing also so I don't know about that either.


I'm sure Cheney had a TV feed to the prisoners in his office he had a company install a sophisticated monitoring TV system in his office which is documented in his office expenses.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
9. Thanks, Ichingcarpenter!
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 01:40 PM
Dec 2014

Hearing about big Dick Cheney with little Luke Russert, I'm all for torture I mean enhanced interrogation now. Hope his waterboarding is broadcast, live.

Response to Octafish (Reply #7)

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
12. I want add something else Cheney said which is criminal
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 04:59 PM
Dec 2014

From the Atlantic



Early on, interviewer Bret Baier says, "The Feinstein report suggests that President Bush was not fully briefed on the program and deliberately kept in the dark by the CIA."

Dick Cheney denies this.

"Not true," he says. "Read his book. He talks about it extensively in his memoirs. He was, in fact, an integral part of he program. He had to approve it before we went forward .... We did discuss the techniques. There was no effort on our part to keep him from that." Cheney goes on to declare that "the men and women of the CIA did exactly what we wanted to have them do in terms of taking on this program."

Got that? Bush was fully briefed, and the CIA did exactly what Bush and Cheney asked. But attentive viewers would notice that Cheney subsequently contradicts himself.

Later in the interview, Baier notes a particularly depraved tactic. "At one point, this report describes interrogators pureeing food of one detainee and then serving it in his anus," he says, "something the agency called 'rectal rehydration.' I mean, is that torture?" (More to the point, did Bush and Cheney know about that? Is it "exactly" what they asked the CIA to do?) "I don't know anything about that specific instance," Cheney said. "I can't speak to that. I guess the question is, what are you prepared to do to get the truth about future attacks against the United States. Now, that was not one of the authorized or approved techniques. There were 12 of them, as I recall. They were all techniques we used in training on our own people."

So suddenly the White House wasn't fully briefed and the CIA went beyond what was authorized, using tactics that weren't "exactly what we wanted to have them do," and that Cheney implies he can't speak to and has never known about before.

Perhaps Cheney did know about "rectal rehydration," but is too ashamed or fearful of prosecution to admit it now. Explicitly defending the anal rape of prisoners is a bit much even for him. Or perhaps he really is just hearing about the tactic.

Either way, he story doesn't hold together. He can't have it both ways. Either the CIA hid depraved, unapproved tactics, or Cheney was perfectly okay with subjecting prisoners to anal rape. Perhaps Chuck Todd can ask him about this glaring discrepancy Sunday on Meet the Press. Until then, there is reason to suspect that, whatever Cheney knew, he doesn't have a moral problem with the anal rape of prisoners, a conclusion I draw from a succinct exchange later in the interview:



http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/12/fox-news-catches-dick-cheney-dissembling-about-torture/383690/


''the CIA did exactly what we wanted to have them do''

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
13. Somewhat agree
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 07:15 PM
Dec 2014

He should only be executed once he is of no further use in testifying. What needs to be done is prosecute everyone who ordered, knew about, signed off on or enacted torture; from teh highest to the lowest; from Cheney to teh sadist with a pair of pliers. And once he isn't useful for securing other convictions, execute him.

spanone

(135,844 posts)
14. the dick thinks because he says something, it's true. we call that delusional.
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 07:19 PM
Dec 2014

yet the media allows him to come out and spew his fucking opinion of torture.

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