it wasn't Chucky's intention to give Dick a platform to answer his critics?

conventional interview techniques were enough. Chuck may
have had a couple "gotchas" but Cheney batted away like
gnats. Chuck should have had some back up ammo.

Think I might ask him - "If you think you are so right, then
why haven't you traveled out of the country?"

He hasn't has he?

pussy comments today? That "pussy" is sacred and not to be used as a hatefilled comment. Thanks for finding a better term.

100% never knew it offended a soul. And, truthfully can't even imagine why. It just
a word. I don't see how it denigrates a living soul. And, don't know another word
that fits a particular situation any better.

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You meant yours in a certain way. Please don't take my words here harshly as that is not the way they are meant. I like your posts and mean no offence.

"It just a word." There are no such things when we are using a word as a descriptor for something else. They have meaning and when used in this manner that meaning is directly attached to something.

"And, don't know another word that fits a particular situation any better." Some I would buy this from, not you. I have seen your writing and understand you are intelligent. Finding proper words when making an argument is a sign of intelligence. Intelligence I know you possess.

Why is the word "pussy" offensive in the manner in which you have used it? "But he'd be too pussy for that." You are saying that Cheney is too weak for that. In order to do so you have attached him to a word directly related to women that infers weakness. Women are weak, women have a pussy, therefore Cheney is a pussy. I understand you weren't directly thinking that when you typed. Your intentions weren't bad. That is the point. Sexism is so engrained in our society these things have become passive. Well, they need to disappear. You are more than smart enough to come up with a better word. I understand you don't think you can. Why not use coward there? What would be wrong with that. It would be much better than using a worn out descriptor directly referencing the male societal view that women are weak. It would also take nothing away from your op if you were to use the word coward instead of your preferred word.

word had absolutely zero intent behind it to offend any further, trust me. I am much too impulsive
to be that calculating. I will remove completely.

It wouldn't be a good day if I didn't learn something new. I always thought the
word just meant timid and scared as a kitten. Never did I think that it promoted worn out
sexual stereotypes or translated to mean women are weak.

Thank you all for teaching me something today !

Thank you even more for making the change. Sorry to have edited my post above again but I didn't want the negative sentence at the end to take away from it. You also didn't deserve it. Thanks for your time Laura.

A good example is the Bee Word, no matter what the context. The Bee Word is all over tee vee, it no longer means, exclusively, what the people objecting to it think it means (that whole "word morph" thing), but say it here and feel the hammer come down. It's like GHWB and Kuwait "This. Shall. Not. Stand!!!!!!!"

In my regular life I look for context when a word is used. I hear words everyday that can't be written out here, and, depending on context, I usually don't find myself upset with the usage. No one is calling people around me names, or otherwise denigrating them, so I'm OK. I realized that you personally were using the word in the "tiny little kitty" manner, but there are people around who will use it in the Mrs. Slocumbe "double entre" way--sometimes for a laugh, and sometimes to be mean and dismissive of women-- and it's key to distinguish between the two. However, you aren't always going to find that kind of "filter" or nuance applied here--even "certain" words used in a neutral fashion are going to set off fireworks. Some people will use that confusion to skate right up to the line and do a little goading, and other people, even when the intent is clearly not hateful, will "misinterpret" for the purposes of starting a fight. That's why I AVOID AVOID AVOID--it's easier than dealing with the inevitable fights with the word police. What's funny, though, is some of the same people OBJECTING (loudly, if not loudest) to those words used to use them --with abandon, too, in the lounge, joking and laughing all the way -- on DU2. The record is there! Go figure!

Bottom line, I eschew those words because the drama-fest that follows them is just not worth it--it has the potential to generate thread after thread of hot-breathed META whining about how everyone is so mean and insensitive, and I get tired of deleting thread after thread when there's a fixation on One Unimportant Thing (say goodbye to the overarching context of the comment, is what happens). I can tell when someone is dragging those "no go" words out with the deliberate goal of insulting someone, and I can tell when someone is using them because they work in the context.

As for Cheney, he's a Great Big Honking COWARD (great edit, BTW). He's grabbed that dumb little mendacious puppet with the drinking problem and the creepy eyes that are too small and unfocused, and he's using him as a human shield whilst simultaneously shoving him under that bus (to mix a few metaphors!).

It's good that people are NOTICING, anyway!

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like "douchebag" which men have no use for, as far as I know anyway.

I'm not that much of a masochist, as to watch that jerk spout his lies and hate.

for president and he is healthy. That was said with a fucking evil little smile, he is fucking insane.

but on the other - keeps throwing in Bush to make it look like he was an innocent soul taking orders from the Prez.

Chuck until he learns what news is.

watching drivel. :&gt

Chuckie doesn't have a chance. He was probably thinking if I don't lob softballs to this guy I am going to have to check under my car for the rest of my life.

"Pussy" should not be used as a derogative. "Coward" and "Bully" should do.
Chuck Todd is a candy-ass.

of shoving his views on anyone, anytime, anywhere. That's how much hubris he has. He is above the law and he doesn't care who knows it or what they think. He hardly shrinks from controversy. It's laughable that anyone would even begin to describe him as a p***y.

He's hardly afraid. He is just not accountable to anyone. Never has been, never will be. Period.

knew he could make toast of Chuck.

But, who knows - maybe he's not afraid of being outwitted by anyone. sure
would be fun to see though.

who actually has his number instead of having his back.

I see what you mean about being afraid to be interviewed, but Cheney has such palpable disdain for the lowly American citizens, he doesn't care what we think. He barely cares what his peers and superiors think, so I doubt he would consider some journalists a match for his superiority.

It looks like we'll be hearing more from him, and yes, it would be fun to see him squirm. Absolutely!

the interview he was asked to comment on McCain being so opposed
to torture. And, all he did was say - well there are former POWs
who say water boarding is not torture. Pretty much saying McCain's
full of shit.

I think skilled interviewing is an interesting topic. You have to take
each question and brainstorm what all the possible answers could
be. And, the questions can not be closed - but rather more
rhetorical.

Here are a few...I know, need work - but may get the gist.

"Mr. Cheney, you seem to have so much disdain for the millions
upon millions who don't agree with you and are appalled that we
torture people. Are you saying they are all wrong? Millions
upon millions?"

"Mr Cheney, you seem to have such little regard for the opinions
of other people in the world - and that only America is right. Why
is that? Do you think we are the only people who can be right?"
(this is probably not a good one since he would probably drone
on about the coalition of the willing)

"Mr. Cheney, if you think everything that America did was perfectly
legal and you have no worries, why do you not travel abroad? Are
you worried about capture/prosecution or is it because there is
nowhere you care to go?"

The way you describe Cheney making McCain look bad -- Cheney is an expert at that. That's why I tend to think he's impenetrable, no matter who is interviewing him.

Actually, yesterday during his interview there was much of it I listened to away from the TV without watching him. But, as I sat and watched parts of it again -- oh my goodness, his body language and physical bearing was so hostile. I saw that evil Cheney sneer and the flashes of pure anger at being subjected to questions he clearly thought were beneath him and none of anyone's business. It's just simply not your business what he does with America's blood and treasure.

That's why it's just laughable in a sarcastic way that anyone would describe him as a pussy (I see you edited your OP -- that's a good move, thanks). He's has more the demeanor of a cold-blooded killer (which is in a way what he is), so he is anything but a pussy.

Descriptor relating to going in front of an expert intellect. Totally agree the man is the devil incarnate and bold beyond belief in every other respect

If only there were 1...

“Why do people say "grow some balls"? Balls are weak and sensitive. If you wanna be tough, grow a vagina. Those things can take a pounding.”
― Betty White

Cheney is far more like an inflamed testicle that you want removed.

Not too much difference if you ask me.


Laura

I couldn't help but note how Cheney went personal with Todd in a condescending manner about his age after Todd played a clip from Cheney 20 years ago. Cheney asked Todd how old he was 20 years ago -- just to put him in his place, I'm sure (of course Todd said he was 20-something). Cheney is an evil, manipulative, condescending bully.

or so I thought - and I have never heard that the term is off limits - until
implied here.

Why? I can't even imagine what would offend someone. It doesn't
even root back to a female body part, IMHO....it's to a wimpy timid
kitten.

And, IMHO, there is no term that describes a particular situation better. Just
like calling someone a "dick" - is that off-limits too?

I honestly do not get it, sorry.

in your humble opinion.

humble.

really.

no.

does not have the ring of truth to it.

I do not believe you are sorry.

at all.

still don't understand why so many have their panties in
a wad. Oh...is saying panties bad?

Honestly - please explain why using the word is so bad.

You are supposedly an adult woman and, you need that word explained to you?

That is the best word you could find to describe the man?

really?

I am sorry LauraPourMeADrink but, I am having a hard time believing you.

*sigh*

Have a merry Christmas, LauraPourMeADrink.

Dick, "We will be greeted as liberators, the insurgency is in the last throes, Saddam has WMD's, The War Will Pay For Itself" Cheney? That guy?

The man got nothing right about the Iraq war. NOT ONE FUCKING THING. Yet no one in the media has the fucking guts to call him out on his bullshit.

have no true intellectual journalists anymore who wouldn't give up. Totally agree - there is more ammunition on this criminal than perhaps anyone in our lifetime - and yet he's not in jail.

We can only blame ourselves.

the powers that be uncomfortable. Chucky Todd is there either because he takes orders, or because he already believes the bullshit and doesn't even need orders.

Dick Cheney will go down in history as a truly evil, demented man who brought shame on himself and America - and I suspect he knows it, thus his strenuous defense of torture and how important the information we got was. Bull...t!

Over the coming years we will learn more and more about what really went on in Iraq and Afghanistan and I'm certain the Bush/Cheney administration will go down in history not just as the worst administration ever, but as an administration that sullied and dishonored our principles. In a nation of great leaders - Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Adams, Lincoln, Roosevelt - Bush and Cheney will be equally famous for the damage they did to our reputation.

Cheney and Rumsfeld were in the Nixon/Ford administration and advised and made command decisions. Those two guys are worthless. And by an act of birth were given enough intellect to word smith to our detriment. May Cheney suffer rejection and I'll let someone else figure out a pox on Rummy.

not even disappointed any more.

don't even care.

so cute.

so fucking cute.

Cheney.

Pussy.

cute.

really.

That's the lesson this gang learned from Watergate: admit no wrongdoing, close ranks, and assert that whatever you did was fully justified.

It's a game of chicken against potential prosecution, and they know damn well that if they don't give anything potential prosecution will turn off the road every time. With miles to spare.

Deposited mostly between the ears, although the NBC labeling doesn't specify that.

n/t

this last 4 days of his?

nt

Thank you so much...

.

that he couldn't obfuscate?

* As prescribed by Dr. AzDar

and then decide if it's torture or not.

"President Obama has kept America safe for 6 years." and smiled. He couldn't call that a lie...maybe that would finally make him shut up and his head might explode. Remember how the Cons used the mantra "George Bush has keep us safe."?

what I was hoping with this thread - not a back and forth about using the word
pussy - but some clever ideas that we could brainstorm on - what could you
ask the monster that would leave him speechless ?

and the formation of ISIS in Bush-Cheney's torture prisons, and all those mass murders that came from Bush dropping restrictions on assault weapons.

did the dirty work - to allow people and the president to be safe today."