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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDick Cheney is a terrorist. It is that simple.
He was asked if he was bothered by the fact that 25 percent of the detainees turned out to be innocent."I have no problem as long as we achieve our objective ... to get the guys who did 9/11 and it is to avoid another attack against the United States," Cheney said. "We've avoided another mass casualty attack against the United States. And we did capture Bin Laden. We did capture an awful lot of the senior guys at Al Qaeda who were responsible for that attack on 9/11. I'd do it again in a minute."
What objective? To get a cheep thrill and some sort of distorted Sadomasochist view of revenge for totally failing to protect America on 9/11 all those years ago. He failed and to feel better about it he was going to torture and kill some people and he doesn't care who got hurt. He wanted to inflict fear of the US on the world. He's a terrorist in ever sense of the world. He also never got the guys that did 9-11. They died in the planes. Obama finally got Bin Laden. The report says torture did not help in that cause no matter how many times he pretends it did. But he'd do it again because he's a terrorist. Even if 25% of the people he tortured were innocent. Bin Laden never cared how many innocents he killed and neither does Cheney. How is he a better more moral human being than the people that did 9-11. How was becoming a terrorist ever going to protect America. He didn't avoid a mass casualty attack against Americans. Young men are still coming home dead, battered, and broken from the wars he started based on lies and torture. The dude needs to go to jail for the rest of his life. Or we can sentence him to 24/7 appearances on Meet the Press which might be a worse fate than jail these days. It certainly is approaching torture to watch.
samsingh
(17,599 posts)surrealAmerican
(11,361 posts)A terrorist is someone with no formal political power who commits acts to terrorize. A person with political power who does the same is a tyrant.
LuvNewcastle
(16,846 posts)We get to decide who the terrorists are, and since we are the 'deciders,' we can't be terrorists. It's sort of like how the Greeks called all the non-Greeks barbarians. We have decided that we are the arbiters of justice in the world, so we are the one true legitimate power. We have our allies, but beyond that, the world is a scary place full of people who are plotting and scheming and finding ways to defy our authority.
This attitude has been present in American thought for a long time; an example would be the idea of Manifest Destiny. It's comes from fundy ideas that America is the shining city on the hill and all sorts of other hogwash. That meme has been one of the most dangerous and destructive forces in world history.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)to Mr Cheney. Lying about the effectiveness is a non sequitur; it doesn't matter an iota if "it worked" or if "it didn't work".
Largely through his personal leadership and insistence the US committed international criminal acts.
No matter how much he lies and obfuscates, his own admissions make him guilty.
Somewhere, perhaps even in the US, there is a person who has the same spirit as Eli Wiesel, a person who will not rest until every war criminal involved is brought to international justice.
And we should hope for that alternative to the one in which persons who will not rest until their sense of justice and retribution are satisfied by acts of violence against American citizens.