Hey, Joe Gumina and Matt Wyse – Fuck you! (Re: Torture and police killings.)

And everyone who thinks like you.

I took these two as representatives of a pathological thought process and twisted world-view because they both put their repugnant, tone-deaf opinions in the public arena. Granted, their opinions mirror those of right-wing radio and Fox News idiot-porn, that passes for news in their circles; but assholes like Jesse Watters, Dennis Miller, Rush Limbaugh and Eric Bolling have entire websites devoted to calling out the sub-human crap that comes from their mouths.

From the San Jose Mercury News:
Torture' in report relatively minor

“It's amazing how far the bar has been lowered to define torture, and the outrage it has created. Sleep deprivation? A cold room? Loud music? A dog leash? Even water boarding (which simulates drowning, but is not drowning)? This is "torture"?
People need to wake up to what terrorists are doing. Terrorists are brutal, savage monsters who follow no rules whatsoever -- cutting off heads, sticking them on poles, holding beheaded bodies for ransom, cutting off limbs, kidnapping schoolgirls and ravaging them, blowing our troops apart with IEDs. That's torture.
If any of those complaining about U.S. torture had a loved one held by these monsters, I'm sure they would approve any means necessary to get their loved one back. It's easy to sit in a comfy chair and criticize those working diligently to protect us.”
Joe Gumina, San Carlos

First, no one has been released because we tortured a suspected terrorist. Ever. Second, read the damn report or at least a real article about the report. If you still think what we did isn’t torture, I’m sure someone would be glad to stick a tube up your ass while you stayed awake in a painful position for a week. Or maybe beat you to death as has happened to some innocent people. Still not torture?

People like Bush, Cheney, some in the CIA, sadistic pundits and people like you have forever, or at least for a few generations, stained our country and made the world worse. There is a connection between torture and the terrorists; people like you and your leaders have created more.

From the SF Chronicle:
Submit to cops
“I do not understand the protesters. The law requires an individual to submit when a police officer gives a legitimate command while pursuing the obligations of his job. If the officer states “you are under arrest,” the individual must submit. If the individual refuses to submit, what should the officer do? Should he simply say “OK, never mind?”
Yet, if he attempts to enforce the arrest it is seen as police brutality or worse. In none of the recent cases that have made news did the individual submit peacefully to the police officer involved.
I suggest that none of these individuals would have ended up dead if they had cooperated with the officer, as required by law."
Matt Wyse, Orinda

I’ll keep this short. Why does nuance and shades of grey escape the stupid and sadistic? There is no middle ground between, “Should he simply say ‘OK, never mind?’” and shooting unarmed people? How would you and your neighborhood react if every time you went out you were hassled by cops? If SWAT raids were a daily occurrence? If your teenage children were shot at the rate of 21 times those from another neighborhood?

There is no excuse for never giving five minutes of critical thought to an issue. There is no excuse for being as ignorant as you two are about important problems. And there is no excuse for being completely unsympathetic to the plight of others.

(Guess I’m a little angry today. Sorry about that.)