Well, they could of course, but they aren't and probably won't, and at least we know who they are by the volume. And they are training younger folks in hate, so it isn't going away in our lifetime.

We have more to fear from the suit and dress wearing folks who swear they aren't racists anyway. And the effects of TPP will screw most of us regardless of what those knuckleheads do.

Even with racists. We can fight the racism issues anther day. I wouldn't particularly compromise with the Tea Party where we have substantial differences, but where an alliance can be put together for a specific purpose in line with the greater good, then yes, we should ally.

You know, that sort of thing where someone is reluctant to take a stance on something until they find out what their enemies think so they can carefully do the opposite, instead of basing their plans and believes on what they themselves want. That doesn't help anyone.

(That said, I don't see "I disagree with this policy that the Tea Party also disagrees with for their own reasons" as "allying with racists." "Sharing an opinion on a specific topic with them, probably for different reasons," sure.)

I was trying to think of a way to word what you have in your second paragraph clearly and gave up.

But would you consider combining resources for specific, limited purposes? E.g. paying for a series of anti-TPP billboards? I think I would. I also bet it might be rather thought-provoking for the general public to see R & L taking united measures against the corporatists.

(I claim sleep-deprived Monday for lack of eloquence )

But yeah, while there aren't many common causes there, I see no reason to believe there wouldn't be some, even if, as I said, the support for it might come from very different places. Things that topical, on important enough matters, are worth picking and choosing temporary partners over, especially since it's distinct from an outright I-support-your-whole-banner kind of political alliance.

More broadly, my willingness to do stuff like that - and my level of comfort at it - would depend a lot on the specific issue. I can see a whole range of reactions from "let's get this done, buddy!" to "I'll take the chance and fight this on my own, thanks."

But yeah, we're on the same page.

a libertarian supporter because I support the legalization of marijuana. Well, frankly I don't give a damn if people try to label me. I will continue to support the legalization of marijuana and I will continue to oppose the TPP even if it means I agree with the Tea Party on this particular issue. Oh, and by the way I also agree with the Tea Party on another issue as well, not bailing out the banks.

Just dont pretend the teaparty was created to oppose big gubbment or taxation, it was created to oppose black skin on president with Muslim sounding name.

What it may then eventually accomplish in line with liberals as to the TPP, may we all be fine and good.

But there was no teaparty when W was spending and destroying this country on steroids, or when Reagan did the same thing

In fact, I think they're just a re-branded version of the KKK, and I mean that literally. My guess is that the people who started the Tea Party were KKK members who recognized that the KKK was having trouble getting the number of members they wanted.

Vietnam, along with tens of millions of others, will those thoughts comfort you, knowing you might have stopped it? Think the kids would prefer your unsubstantiated diatribe or a future where they can have a job with a living wage?

Or perhaps you are in favor of TPP and don't see it that way?

I am not OK with the TPP, I just disagree with the characterizing of the Tea Party as not by definition racist. I think they are.

people talk about them....but they are as elusive as the Yeti!

Would you torture someone, if it meant you thought you could stop a bomb attack?

I just don't see why you couldn't 'not' ally yourself with them, and still be 'in parallel' with them on this issue, for different reasons.