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Anybody remember Mancow? One of those radio loudmouths who was all hot-headed with that "USA! USA! USA!" mentality some years back? His was a big beefy yowling pro-bush/cheney voice after 9/11, one of those let's-get-those-Iraqis, Katie-bar-the-door, whatever-it-takes, make-'em-pay, make-'em-hurt types. The waterboarding-was-NUTHIN' types. The we-do-what-we-gotta-do types. The just-a-little-splashing-in-the-face-and-they-deserve-SO-much-more types. I never worked with this guy, but I fondly remember this back in the last decade, along with the run-up to it by shock-jocks all over the country. A Howard Stern wannabe.
Yes, Virginia, there actually ARE the rare CONS and recovering CONS or maybe back-peddling-but-still-CONS CONS, who realize that torture is nothing to dismiss, downplay, or snicker at. He actually allowed himself to find out that it's TORTURE, alright.
http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/tony-norman/2009/05/26/Mancow-knows-Waterboarding-is-torture/stories/200905260184
From the article:
Last Friday, Mancow did what higher profile skeptics of the charge that the Bush administration engaged in torture don't have the courage to do. Where Fox News host Sean Hannity last month glibly agreed to be waterboarded ("I'll do it for charity" , Mancow actually underwent the procedure during the live broadcast of his popular morning show.
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Still, there was an undeniable logic to the stunt. Being waterboarded would be a ratings bonanza for "Mancow's Morning Madhouse." Once the footage of a torture skeptic "successfully" defying the critics of waterboarding made the rounds, it would elevate Mancow from the "D-list" of Howard Stern imitators to the first tier of conservative yakkers like Rush, Beck, Hannity and Michael Savage. A little water on the face could potentially yield big dividends.
But the real world closed in quickly once Mancow's legs were elevated, his feet tied and a towel pressed over his face. It was telling that he was already on the verge of freaking out even before a single drop was administered. Don't be surprised if some, including fraus on the right like Ann Coulter, question whether Mancow was brave enough to do it in the first place. Everyone agrees Mancow has more guts and conviction than Sean Hannity, though.
Alas, the hoped-for propaganda minute did not happen. Six seconds into the procedure, Mancow emerged gasping and spitting water. Instead of brave forbearance, Mancow Muller had the look of a man who had seen a terrible light.
"It was way worse than I thought it would be, and that's no joke," a badly shaken Mancow said. "It is such an odd feeling to have water poured down your nose with your head back. ... It was instantaneous ... and I don't want to say this: absolutely torture."
He lasted SIX seconds. With all his swagger and bravado and LOUDLY obnoxious in-yer-face pseudo-patriotism. He was almost shitting his pants before they even got started on him. I LOVE this line, from above: "It was telling that he was already on the verge of freaking out even before a single drop was administered."
And to this day, has Mr. Red-White-&-Blue Bravado himself made good on his chest-thumping? Has that-guy-whose-name-rhymes-with-VANITY made good on his assertion that he, too, would undergo water boarding to prove it was a whole lotta nothing? He's nothing but a first-class chicken-shit. Talks a good game. Then folds like a piece of paper! Don't ever join the CIA, sean. You'll be giving up state secrets at the drop of a hankie.
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calimary
(81,304 posts)And yeah, I chose that word deliberately. But I'll dial it back. It was meant to throw offense at the individual referenced there. Not you.
The content of this post is 100% top notch.
catbyte
(34,398 posts)wouldn't give to see Rummy, Yoo, Bush, and especially Darth Cheney strapped to that waterboard. Also Hannity, Bolton, Coulter, etc etc etc--actually ALL of those despicable, vile, evil, cowardly chickenhawk war criminals and their sleazy, simpering apologists.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Torture is punishment -- without any kind of trial or right of due process.
It is against international law.
And if Hannity does not carry through on trying it, then we can be quite certain that he and the rest of the folks at Fox know very well that the "enhanced interrogation" including the waterboarding is torture. Otherwise, why wouldn't Hannity show us how harmless it is?
MisterP
(23,730 posts)themselves
they're frothingly pro-torture and so war-hungry they hope that the Americans use heavy pellets so no fighter can survive and say the Quran protected them--until they're at a 45-degree angle and deprived of oxygen for a mere 10 seconds
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jtuck004
(15,882 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Or maybe you don't get that.
Sad.
bhikkhu
(10,718 posts)He'd be confessing to the Lindberg kidnapping, or to being a deep-cover Taliban plant, or to being the Zodiac killer, or whatever the torturer wanted him to say. That's kind of the whole point about torture being pointless; it gains you little but false confessions and garbage, which is why confessions and testimony gained by torture isn't admissable.