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MohRokTah

(15,429 posts) Tue Dec 16, 2014, 01:30 AM Dec 2014

Elizabeth Warren is NOT running for president in 2016, here's why.

She has no ground organization work begun in Iowa and New Hampshire.

It's too late for her to start. Edwards, Obama, and Clinton all had ground work begun in both by this time in 2006. The "also rans" were beginning their work at this time in 2006, too.

To date, there is precisely NOTHING in place for a Warren run in 2016.

It's already too late for her to get in the game.

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Elizabeth Warren is NOT running for president in 2016, here's why. (Original Post) MohRokTah Dec 2014 OP

Good for you. n/t L0oniX Dec 2014 #1

No, it's not too late. And are we not still waiting for Hillary to 'decide'? TheNutcracker Dec 2014 #2

It is too late. Clinton already has a massive groundgame in place in both Iowa and New Hampshire. MohRokTah Dec 2014 #3

The Maginot Line of politics MannyGoldstein Dec 2014 #6

double-plus... sgtbenobo Dec 2014 #11

All signs indicate that she's announcing in Spring. MADem Dec 2014 #13

It is possible for her to jump in late but... leftofcool Dec 2014 #4

You may well be right... TDale313 Dec 2014 #5

There's one organization of people that is ready to help her. They call us Democrats. nt TeamPooka Dec 2014 #7

If Hillary supporters are not worried then why the insistence? liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #8

didn't Tom Vilsack drop out in january of 2007 ? JI7 Dec 2014 #9

He was running for Vice President, in actual fact. nt MADem Dec 2014 #14

Obama's campaign workers pledging to help Warren? fadedrose Dec 2014 #10

I said the EXACT OPPOSITE Hari Seldon Dec 2014 #12

but see the Parties have carefully orchestrated how campaigns are to be run since RFK. liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #16

Bernie Sanders 2016 woo me with science Dec 2014 #15

+1 liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #17

You have no idea. Hutzpa Dec 2014 #18

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)

1. Good for you. n/t

Reply to MohRokTah (Original post)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 01:31 AM

Dec 2014

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)

2. No, it's not too late. And are we not still waiting for Hillary to 'decide'?

Reply to MohRokTah (Original post)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 01:32 AM

Dec 2014

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)

3. It is too late. Clinton already has a massive groundgame in place in both Iowa and New Hampshire.

Reply to TheNutcracker (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 01:34 AM

Dec 2014

Warren has nothing.

Retail politics begins about 16 months out for the presidency now.

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)

6. The Maginot Line of politics

Reply to MohRokTah (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 01:42 AM

Dec 2014

Impenetrable. Invinceable.

sgtbenobo

(327 posts)

11. double-plus...

Reply to MannyGoldstein (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 02:16 AM

Dec 2014

....one.

Carry on, young troopers, carry on.

MADem

(135,425 posts)

13. All signs indicate that she's announcing in Spring.

Reply to TheNutcracker (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 02:40 AM

Dec 2014

She doesn't want to do it sooner because that cuts off the "informal coordination" that is permitted before a candidate declares.

The strategy discussions provide further evidence that the former secretary of state and first lady is edging closer to another run for the presidency, after two years writing and promoting a memoir, giving paid speeches and strengthening ties with key Democratic interest groups. But rather than announce in January — as she did in 2007 — Clinton allies are increasingly working under the assumption that an official announcement will not come until spring.....

The enforced separation now under discussion by Clinton and her aides would erect a clearer legal barrier between her and her unofficial campaign-in-waiting. It would put an end to the informal discussions now taking place between Clinton’s inner circle and operatives working for outside groups backing her.

Because Clinton is not a declared candidate for federal office, she and her advisers are allowed to communicate informally with groups such as Priorities USA Action, Ready for Hillary and American Bridge, whose Correct the Record project functions as a rapid-response operation on her behalf. If and when she announces her bid, however, Clinton’s campaign would not be able to share strategic information with allies outside the campaign and Democratic Party.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-begins-weighing-details-of-a-2016-bid-with-a-spring-announcement-likely/2014/12/11/088bccac-80a5-11e4-9f38-95a187e4c1f7_story.html

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)

4. It is possible for her to jump in late but...

Reply to MohRokTah (Original post)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 01:34 AM

Dec 2014

she had better make sure that all the skeletons are out of hiding or the GOP will crucify her. They will call her a hypocrite and a liar. She won't deserve it but it will stick.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)

5. You may well be right...

Reply to MohRokTah (Original post)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 01:38 AM

Dec 2014

And I won't be surprised if she doesn't run. I will say, though, that she has a fair amount of grassroots support and things could come together very quickly if "I'm not running" turned to "Ok, I'm in"

It makes sense for her to not totally shut down all media speculation at this point, though. She can bring more attention to her issues/causes.

TeamPooka

(24,228 posts)

7. There's one organization of people that is ready to help her. They call us Democrats. nt

Reply to MohRokTah (Original post)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 01:50 AM

Dec 2014

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)

8. If Hillary supporters are not worried then why the insistence?

Reply to MohRokTah (Original post)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 01:56 AM

Dec 2014

JI7

(89,250 posts)

9. didn't Tom Vilsack drop out in january of 2007 ?

Reply to MohRokTah (Original post)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 01:58 AM

Dec 2014

MADem

(135,425 posts)

14. He was running for Vice President, in actual fact. nt

Reply to JI7 (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 02:42 AM

Dec 2014

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)

10. Obama's campaign workers pledging to help Warren?

Reply to MohRokTah (Original post)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 02:14 AM

Dec 2014

Didn't I see that post somewhere on this board? Are the people here lying to me? That damd post even had their names and states they handled.

Everybody lies to me.... boo hoo

And I though this was the one place to find truth...

And I thought the post was real.

Aside from that, , I think that Warren's impact on the Democrats in the House was major and sincere, and on the people in the Senate, both parties. Hillary never ever got that kind of response on any occasion when she served in the Senate. She shocked them into thinking. Us, too.

The heck with what DU thinks. "I" think Warren will run and Hill will drop out. It just wasn't meant to be. No link, no fortuneteller or shaman. Just looking at what happened last week. You know, nothing has ever shaken my love and confidence in Obama UNTIL WARREN MENTIONED HIS SEC OF THE TREASURY. Go back and check my love and admiration filled posts...I always make excuses for him but can't think of any. I even sent an email and told him how disappointed I was in his choice of a Citigroup fella for that post.
(no reply yet)...

Sorry you're not here cali, to see me not stick up for him.

Hari Seldon

(154 posts)

12. I said the EXACT OPPOSITE

Reply to MohRokTah (Original post)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 02:39 AM

Dec 2014

with her name recognition

with the sheer numbers of passionate activists that would work for her

Elizabeth Warren can WAIT until the VERY LAST MINUTE to enter the primaries.

I suggest that she can wait until NEXT THANKSGIVING to enter and still be fine.

RFK didn't enter the race until MARCH of 1968, and he would have walked away with the nomination with ease.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)

16. but see the Parties have carefully orchestrated how campaigns are to be run since RFK.

Reply to Hari Seldon (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 02:45 AM

Dec 2014

Campaigns are so tightly ran now a days, and the Party leaders and campaign managers think they get to tell people how things are going to be run. I say to hell with all of that. I am not voting for the party leaders and campaign manager to be my President. I am voting for the candidate who will best represent me in my government.