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Eugene

(61,899 posts)
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 02:13 PM Dec 2014

Family of Ohio man shot and killed in Walmart sue company, police

Source: Reuters

Family of Ohio man shot and killed in Walmart sue company, police

BY KIM PALMER
CLEVELAND Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:47pm EST

(Reuters) - The family of an Ohio man shot and killed by police while holding a BB gun in a Walmart store filed a federal wrongful death lawsuit on Tuesday against the police and the national retail chain.

John Crawford, 22, was shot after a 911 caller reported a man with a gun at the Beavercreek Walmart in a suburb of the southern Ohio city of Dayton.

In a surveillance video released by authorities, Crawford, who is black, can be seen picking up an unpackaged BB gun off a shelf and walking through the store while talking on a cell phone until a white police officer shot him.

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All we want is justice for John Crawford and everyone responsible for John Crawford’s death should be held responsible," Michael Wright, an attorney for the family, said in a news conference Tuesday. "The criminal justice system refused to hold those accountable so the civil system must."

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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/16/us-usa-ohio-shooting-police-idUSKBN0JU23N20141216
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Family of Ohio man shot and killed in Walmart sue company, police (Original Post) Eugene Dec 2014 OP
They also ought to sue that asshole who made the 911 call. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #1
Why what did he do? sharp_stick Dec 2014 #5
The 911 caller lied and said the man was walking around with a gun and pointing it at people, tblue37 Dec 2014 #6
Well now that changes things sharp_stick Dec 2014 #8
He lied. Iggo Dec 2014 #7
I just found out sharp_stick Dec 2014 #9
I'm not a walmart fan... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #2
My guess... berni_mccoy Dec 2014 #3
Maybe so. I hadn't thought of that. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #4
You go for the deep pockets in a case like this MiniMe Dec 2014 #11
Isn't Ohio an open carry state? malaise Dec 2014 #10
It's clearly for white folks only. And that's true everywhere. pnwmom Dec 2014 #12

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
5. Why what did he do?
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 02:51 PM
Dec 2014

He saw someone with a gun, nothing wrong with calling the cops.

If you see someone with a gun should you ask him if he's there to kill his ex girlfriend or rob the place before deciding whether it's worth a 911 call?

The cops were the ones in the wrong. They are responsible for dealing with a potential threat not Walmart shoppers. They didn't properly respond to the scene and killed an innocent man. The police and by extension their employer, the city, county or State, are the ones that should be sued.

You might also get Walmart for not properly packaging or storing the BB gun.

tblue37

(65,357 posts)
6. The 911 caller lied and said the man was walking around with a gun and pointing it at people,
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 03:01 PM
Dec 2014

including children, and that he seemed to be stopping to load the gun.

By embellishing the story that way, he made sure the cops were all pumped up and convinced they had a suspect actively threatening to shoot families and children.

That's still no excuse for the cop shooting immediately, without even a warning or a demand to drop the weapon, but I don't doubt that the caller's embellishment, probably intended to make the caller seem heroic and win him his 15 minutes of fame, ensured that the trigger-happy cop would be even more quick to shoot than he otherwise might have been.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
2. I'm not a walmart fan...
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 02:22 PM
Dec 2014

but what are the grounds for suing the company? The 911 caller wasn't an employee, was he?

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
3. My guess...
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 02:27 PM
Dec 2014

Is that they allowed a BB gun to be sold in an unpackaged way so if that is all you were buying it would appear as though you were walking through the store with a weapon.

MiniMe

(21,716 posts)
11. You go for the deep pockets in a case like this
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 04:49 PM
Dec 2014

And Walmart certainly has deep pockets, they just don't share it with the employees

malaise

(269,004 posts)
10. Isn't Ohio an open carry state?
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 03:29 PM
Dec 2014

Or is it open carry for white folks only?
Yes I know this story and there was no reason to even enter the store -after all the store never called any cops and the man was walking with a shelf gun sold in the store.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
12. It's clearly for white folks only. And that's true everywhere.
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 05:22 PM
Dec 2014

White men can carry around assault weapons and spout off about the 2nd amendment. Little black boys can't carry around water pistols without worrying about being killed by the police.

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