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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe problem is the defense of police brutality, not the existence of police unions.
Everybody who works needs union protection. That's the only way you have any hope at all of getting decent working conditions and pay.
The problems with police include the "us against the world" attitude the police are encouraged to have by politicians and their superiors(and which they have with each other), the ways in which police work seems to eat away at the humanity of those who do it, and
the massive increase in gun culture in this country.
NOT the fact that they have(usually inadequate)union representation.
If police unions were abolished, pay would be slashed for cops, working conditions massively downgraded, pensions probably abolished-and the result would be that even crazier and less-self-controlled people would do the work.
Police unions need new leadership(they usually have corrupt and unaccountable leaders), they need to develop programs to keep cops in contact with the fact that most people, even in "bad neighborhoods" are basically decent, sane, and nonviolent folks who don't harm anybody, and they need the right to strike-giving them that would do a lot to diffuse police hatred of other unions and other working people, and probably diffuse their hatred of activists and the poor to at least some degree.
But it is never a progressive step, and can never lead to anything positive, to call for ANYONE to be stripped of union representation, even the police.
They also need a lot-less used military toys.
Iggo
(47,552 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Not to challenge the existence of police unions themselves. The stances the unions are taking on this are just part of the whole work culture in which they operate.
It's not like the cops wouldn't find some way to have spokespeople defend them without unions.
What the cop union leaders are saying is disgusting...but how is setting up the cops to get their wages and pensions slashed going to change anything for the better?
Iggo
(47,552 posts)...instead of the department mouthpiece.
I got no problem with labor unions that act like labor unions.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Demands for respect and apologies are ridiculous.
The mayors of towns and cities need to get with the police chief to do massive house cleaning in the department. Until they take a firm stand on the conduct of the police dept. union members, nothing will be done.
msongs
(67,406 posts)to protect themselves