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True Earthling

(832 posts)
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 07:20 PM Dec 2014

Sony caves in to N.K. threats - free speech is dead!!

OK Sony...grow some cojones! Release "The Interview" online for free. You will have 10X as many viewers and create enormous good will. I for one, will be a fan of Sony for life. If you don't want to release it free, charge $1 and you will recoup your investment plus some. Fight back...free speech is a cornerstone of human rights...don't let this asshole regime dictate what U.S. citizens can or cannot see.

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Sony caves in to N.K. threats - free speech is dead!! (Original Post) True Earthling Dec 2014 OP
Um, NK doesn't believe in free speech. randome Dec 2014 #1
Apparently it was NK that hacked Sony's emails MrScorpio Dec 2014 #2
I read a story that it was a disgruntled employee. It is all odd, wondering if it is a thing to uppityperson Dec 2014 #7
Free Speech is still fine. I applaud Sony for having the good sense not to release an offensive CBGLuthier Dec 2014 #3
So the feelings of one lunatic are more important than the feelings of millions of people True Earthling Dec 2014 #6
Millions wanted to see a Seth Rogen movie? FSogol Dec 2014 #12
I don't see this as a free speech issue... Cooley Hurd Dec 2014 #8
Just because it isn't the US government doesn't mean shit. True Earthling Dec 2014 #10
Oh for crying out loud. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #9
Thank you! Being "afraid" of the little tyrant plays right into his megalomania. n/t nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #11
LOL, another scared American steps up!!!!! Red alert!!!!!! nt Logical Dec 2014 #17
Free speach died long ago Kelvin Mace Dec 2014 #4
Is the whole thing a set up? CJCRANE Dec 2014 #5
Could also be they realized it's going to be a bad movie that would damage their reputation. Angleae Dec 2014 #19
Sony and North Korea are little more than names in my personal universe. hunter Dec 2014 #13
Unreal. Release the move in the USA. bigwillq Dec 2014 #14
Umm no. It would be a free speech issue if the US government stopped Sony from distributing it... 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #15
This whole thing makes me laugh WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2014 #16
Perhaps, Corporate Personhood is in decline. Downwinder Dec 2014 #18
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
1. Um, NK doesn't believe in free speech.
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 07:24 PM
Dec 2014

It's our cowardly corporations that are to blame.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]A ton of bricks, a ton of feathers, it's still gonna hurt.[/center][/font][hr]

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
7. I read a story that it was a disgruntled employee. It is all odd, wondering if it is a thing to
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 07:56 PM
Dec 2014

drive up viewership even.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
3. Free Speech is still fine. I applaud Sony for having the good sense not to release an offensive
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 07:33 PM
Dec 2014

movie that could piss off a genuine lunatic.

As for their need to grow some cojones, I prefer brains over cojones. Just one fucking incident at a theater and they would be sued and blasted for it. I notice all those telling them to grow a pair have no actual risk to themselves involved. Just Saying.

Besides we may have all been saved from a shitty movie and if you really crave offensive caricatures of real actual leaders being murdered you can always rent Team America. America, Fuck Yeah, indeed!

True Earthling

(832 posts)
6. So the feelings of one lunatic are more important than the feelings of millions of people
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 07:55 PM
Dec 2014

wanted to see this movie. Or the hundreds of millions or billions who believe in the principal of free speech.

Gotcha'.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
8. I don't see this as a free speech issue...
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:21 PM
Dec 2014

...since it's not the US Government making the threats. I see this more as a "hacker bravado" thing (that I'm quite fascinated by). A few dickheads sitting in their pajamas crippling the media arm of a huge conglomerate such as Sony.

All the old jokes about knock-off electronics having "Sony Guts". Who knew Sony had no guts?

True Earthling

(832 posts)
10. Just because it isn't the US government doesn't mean shit.
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:57 PM
Dec 2014

When you have someone intimidating another into not saying something because they don't like it, they are not only fucking with Sony's freedom of speech...they are fucking with YOUR freedom. They are depriving YOU of the right see and hear what Sony has to say. N.K. is a bully.. the only way to deal with a bully is to stand up to them. Someone that makes a threat about a movie will make a threat about anything. What's next, will they demand that the NY Times refer to Kim Jong-Un only as "our glorious leader" in print?

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
9. Oh for crying out loud.
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:31 PM
Dec 2014

What's he going to do, whine about it?

A stupid hack is the best they're going to be able to do.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
5. Is the whole thing a set up?
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 07:46 PM
Dec 2014

The movie, the hackers etc.

There are a lot of geopolitical shenanigans going on these days, it's getting hard to figure out what the true story is.

FWIW it looks like a mediocre movie and I don't care that it's been canned. However, I know that's the wrong attitude and I should be sticking up for their freedom of speech.

Angleae

(4,482 posts)
19. Could also be they realized it's going to be a bad movie that would damage their reputation.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 03:06 AM
Dec 2014

For years to come so the pull it using the threat to cover it up.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
13. Sony and North Korea are little more than names in my personal universe.
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:25 PM
Dec 2014

Immediate impact = zero.

Potential impact = unknown.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
15. Umm no. It would be a free speech issue if the US government stopped Sony from distributing it...
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:33 PM
Dec 2014

This is not the case.

Sony decided on its own the halt distribution.

I fully support Sony's right under the first amendment to make and distribute this movie but the right to free speech does not protect them from some despotic nation collecting data and intelligence on them and using it to blackmail them. They should have secured their shit before taking on this venture.

You don't release a movie about assassinating the leader of another nation then leave all of your data out in the open. They or their surrogates (CHINA) are going to start sniffing around.

Back in 2011 the PlayStation Network was taken down for 23 days and massive amounts of data was stolen. The Sony Corp is notorious at leaving themselves vulnerable to attacks.

What Sony did is equivalent to me posting my address on craigslist along with a photo of a stack of cash then leaving my door wide open. It just attracts the wrong kind of attention and also puts the people living around me at risk or in Sony's case fellow movie distribution companies.

I don't like that some fat pig in North Korea who can barely walk and starves his own people has a say in what an American company can release but Sony gave him and other bad actors leverage because their shitty security protocols and now because of that they and they alone made the decision to pull the film.

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
16. This whole thing makes me laugh
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:33 PM
Dec 2014

A little country portrayed as backwards and technologically illiterate takes down a mega-multinational corporation. If "too big too fail" means "too big to jail" this could be better than Dodd-Frank, which as Warren noted, was flawed because it didn't break the banks up into tiny pieces.

Nope, I don't feel sorry for poor Sony.

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