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NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:17 PM Dec 2014

Is it possible that the movie cancellation wasn't about a terrorist threat...

but some sort of blackmail instead? Could the hacked information include some sort of dirt on Sony executives that is so potentially damaging they are willing to scuttle their own film?

I just have a hard time believing they are taking a threat (which the F.B.I. said was not credible) so seriously they are willing to forego the millions this movie would bring in.

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Is it possible that the movie cancellation wasn't about a terrorist threat... (Original Post) NaturalHigh Dec 2014 OP
I agree, something else is going on...n/t monmouth4 Dec 2014 #1
CISPA legislation; coming soon to a computer near you! Cosmic Kitten Dec 2014 #38
The movie was doing terrible in test screenings thelordofhell Dec 2014 #2
That could be it I suppose. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #4
FFS, are you making this up. And the RT rating is 53%... Logical Dec 2014 #7
I don't know the source myself and would be interested to see it el_bryanto Dec 2014 #25
If true, I hope the hackers release it anyway. nt Ykcutnek Dec 2014 #3
yup bettydavis Dec 2014 #5
Sony is responding to the theater chains refusing to show the movie. pugetres Dec 2014 #6
That means any movie in the future can be stopped I assume. Dumb move by Sony. nt Logical Dec 2014 #8
Not dumb if it keeps corporste secrets secret. Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #10
Good point, maybe that is the real story. nt Logical Dec 2014 #11
I agree. What exactly do the hackers possess on the personal communications and computer file Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #9
My thoughts too. I think there's possibly far more to this than the facade released RKP5637 Dec 2014 #36
Sony is saying it is the theatre chain owners fault, Regal Theaters, owned by a right wing nut Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #39
It's all beginning to sound like an excellent story line for a new movie! RKP5637 Dec 2014 #40
There is also probbly the fear of lawsuits, had something happened at a theater. arcane1 Dec 2014 #12
I would think that's the 840high Dec 2014 #14
How could they possibly be held liable for that, though? Orrex Dec 2014 #28
Very true, but fear of lawsuits isn't always rational arcane1 Dec 2014 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Dec 2014 #13
Thanks. That's a very enlightening article. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #15
I often wondered how that hacker was able to hack into so many celebrity cellphones but... 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #16
Whoa! I never thought of that! NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #18
...and perhaps 2naSalit Dec 2014 #31
Well, there it is. HappyMe Dec 2014 #21
If that's what it is, though, you know a lot more will come out. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #23
Yeah, definitely. HappyMe Dec 2014 #24
That's what I think is going to happen. More and more will come out as time goes on. Blaming RKP5637 Dec 2014 #37
I was looking forward to more scandals concerning nilesobek Dec 2014 #17
I won't lump them all together... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #19
What if the movie is so terrible that.... JaneyVee Dec 2014 #20
I'm not ruling it out. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #22
Would love to see what else they have, we have already learned how Racist they are at Sony. n/t dilby Dec 2014 #26
How about an insurance scam? Sanity Claws Dec 2014 #27
That's another interesting theory. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #29
who cares? ArcticFox Dec 2014 #30
Maybe, maybe not. HappyMe Dec 2014 #32
At the very least... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #34
Yes. HappyMe Dec 2014 #35
There is a far simpler explanation melm00se Dec 2014 #41
If I cared, I'd bet on an extreme insider trading and accounting scandal. hunter Dec 2014 #42

thelordofhell

(4,569 posts)
2. The movie was doing terrible in test screenings
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:21 PM
Dec 2014

I wouldn't be surprised if Sony jumped at this opportunity pull the cost of showing it in theaters and only put it out on VOD here in America

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
4. That could be it I suppose.
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:23 PM
Dec 2014

I mean the movie really looked like it sucked, but I feel that way about most of the comedies released these days.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
7. FFS, are you making this up. And the RT rating is 53%...
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:26 PM
Dec 2014

which is not terrible. Dumb and Dumber 2 was tore up in the reviews but was still released.

Not in the movie business I assume??

They would of made that decision weeks ago. Not recently. The "cost" would of already been spent!

Where do you get this stuff?

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
25. I don't know the source myself and would be interested to see it
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:20 PM
Dec 2014

But there is a difference between review screenings and test screenings. Review screeners are for the press and critics, test screenings are in theory for regular people who might go see the movie.

Bryant

bettydavis

(93 posts)
5. yup
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:23 PM
Dec 2014

there is no threat to anyone except some Sony execs egos and reputations. me thinks there's a disgruntled ex employee behind this but what the hell do I know

 

pugetres

(507 posts)
6. Sony is responding to the theater chains refusing to show the movie.
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:26 PM
Dec 2014

So, I don't think blackmail is plausible.

Part of me thinks it is silly to take the threat of harm seriously is the movie is shown. But, another part of me understands how nervous the theaters would be to threats after dealing with the actions of a lunatic in Colorado.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
9. I agree. What exactly do the hackers possess on the personal communications and computer file
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:29 PM
Dec 2014

folders of Sony executives and their political allies?

Far less disruptive to not open the movie and now they promise never to show it??

Sound suspiciously like an extortion payment.

My Spidey senses are tingling on this one as well.
.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
36. My thoughts too. I think there's possibly far more to this than the facade released
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 09:39 AM
Dec 2014

for public consumption.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
39. Sony is saying it is the theatre chain owners fault, Regal Theaters, owned by a right wing nut
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 10:42 AM
Dec 2014

fundie billionaire.....what motives might this Fox News addicted asshat have for storing things up?

There are layers to this onion, I am helping to peel them back.

Could this all be a political ploy to try to make Obama look bad?

NK governments official response is the opposite of what you might expect.

FBI blames N.K?

Where is the beef? Show me the beef.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
40. It's all beginning to sound like an excellent story line for a new movie!
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 11:19 AM
Dec 2014

The recent NK response was interesting. Yep, there's far more going on here IMO than what meets the eye at a glance.

Orrex

(63,215 posts)
28. How could they possibly be held liable for that, though?
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:34 PM
Dec 2014

I admit that this was my initial reaction as well, but upon reflection I simply don't see how any court would find SONY liable for a criminal or terrorist act taking place at the screening of one of their films.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
33. Very true, but fear of lawsuits isn't always rational
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 02:25 PM
Dec 2014

I'm thinking more of a "failed to provide security" kind of thing, especially on the theaters' part.

Response to NaturalHigh (Original post)

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
15. Thanks. That's a very enlightening article.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 02:11 AM
Dec 2014
The group has threatened to continue releasing company data unless Sony agrees to cancel the film’s release. People who attempted to download GOP’s (Guardians of Peace) data encountered extremely slow download speeds, the report said, pointing out that the tactic was once commonly used to thwart film and music piracy.

The hackers claim to have nearly 100 terabytes of Sony Pictures’ corporate data, and are slowly releasing portions of it online through file-sharing sites. So far, the hackers have revealed emails exchanged between Sony executives, producers and other members of the film industry, as well as five feature films, four of which have not yet been released in theaters.

The data also purportedly contains information about sensitive financial deals between Sony and its corporate partners, which could hurt its relationships with them, the Re/code report said.


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I would bet real money there's a smoking gun in there somewhere detailing how Sony has screwed some of its business partners. Sony execs aren't worried about terrorist attacks; they're worried about being sued for everything but their last pair of jockey shorts.

Don't be surprised if there aren't also some personal e-mails between execs and mistresses/hookers/escort services etc. too.
 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
16. I often wondered how that hacker was able to hack into so many celebrity cellphones but...
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 03:10 AM
Dec 2014

maybe they actually got the photos from a single source. The first thought I had is maybe those photos were stored on a high level director or producer's computer.

Could the earlier photo hacks be tied into this Sony deal?

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
18. Whoa! I never thought of that!
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:56 PM
Dec 2014

Wouldn't that make for some interesting conversation?

Whatever this hack revealed, it has some Sony executives running scared.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
23. If that's what it is, though, you know a lot more will come out.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:15 PM
Dec 2014

Everybody's curiosity is piqued now, and a lot of people are going to be digging. Also, I can't imagine that the hackers, no matter what demands might be met, can resist releasing what they have forever.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
24. Yeah, definitely.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:20 PM
Dec 2014

What a mess! A fake threat to cover their behinds, with more scandalous info waiting in the wings. I hope they do release the info, what we have seen so far is probably small potatoes.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
37. That's what I think is going to happen. More and more will come out as time goes on. Blaming
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 10:11 AM
Dec 2014

NK for it all is just too convenient a cover story IMO. There is just far too much dirt at Sony being revealed, some group seemed to really know what Sony had to hide. And, I don't think those that did it will remain silent forever, there will be, as you say, "Everybody's curiosity is piqued now, and a lot of people are going to be digging."

nilesobek

(1,423 posts)
17. I was looking forward to more scandals concerning
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 03:27 AM
Dec 2014

Sony employees. Its a revelation to see how racist entitled the actor/producer/director classes are. They might make PC correct movies but they are railing racists.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
19. I won't lump them all together...
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:59 PM
Dec 2014

but I think that a great many of them are the "do as I say not as I do" types. They have all these ideas about how we should live and think, but they are special and therefor above that.

Just my opinion, and again, I'm sure that's not true of all.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
20. What if the movie is so terrible that....
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:00 PM
Dec 2014

It is all just a marketing ploy to boost dvd and on demand sales?

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
22. I'm not ruling it out.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:13 PM
Dec 2014

It just seems to me that most of their movies (comedies at least) really suck, but they still draw in big bucks. Yeah, your theory is definitely a possibility.

Sanity Claws

(21,849 posts)
27. How about an insurance scam?
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:27 PM
Dec 2014

They knew the movie was a dog and wouldn't bring in the money to cover the production costs. So they make up this idiotic story in order to bring it within some item covered by the insurance policy.
Has anyone seen the insurance policy or heard whether an insurance claim will be filed?

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
34. At the very least...
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 02:30 PM
Dec 2014

people should be able to see for themselves. It's not like I was dying to see the movie, but I don't like someone caving to pressure not to show it.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
35. Yes.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 02:34 PM
Dec 2014

Particularly because it is looking like Sony is running scared about any other info the hackers may have.
Caving like this is bad, bad news.

melm00se

(4,993 posts)
41. There is a far simpler explanation
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 12:43 PM
Dec 2014

With the publicly stated threat (credible or not), if Sony released the film and any of the movie house chains played it and any sort of attack took place, Sony and the movie house chains would be exposed to an incredible level of legal exposure.

the avalanche of lawsuits would completely devastate Sony and any movie chains that exhibited the film and more than likely wipe out these companies.

hunter

(38,317 posts)
42. If I cared, I'd bet on an extreme insider trading and accounting scandal.
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 01:00 PM
Dec 2014

Expect a lot of corporate records to vanish because of those damned evil hackers and terrorists.

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