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leftofcool

(19,460 posts) Wed Dec 17, 2014, 11:20 PM Dec 2014

Attention Catholics!

Isn't insulting His Holiness like the ultimate sin? I really am asking this in all seriousness. A windbag like Rubio can insult President Obama, and we don't think much about it. We consider the source and keep moving. Obama doesn't give a shit. He's used to it, and it's Rubio for crying' out loud. But, it seems to me that insulting the Pope by implying that His Holiness doesn't work for peace and justice for all people should carry some sort of consequence. Work with me here. I know some things about Catholicism but not all that much.

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Attention Catholics! (Original Post) leftofcool Dec 2014 OP

--on edit-- Actually, it is not a sin to insult the Pope Gman Dec 2014 #1

Okay, that answers my question. No punishment for rudeness. Thanks leftofcool Dec 2014 #3

"Isn't insulting His Holiness like the ultimate sin?" Brickbat Dec 2014 #2

It's not a sin to insult the pope. SylviaD Dec 2014 #4

Technically, there are two living popes Warpy Dec 2014 #5

I hope not because chieftain Dec 2014 #6

With Rubio being Catholic it seemed shocking ALBliberal Dec 2014 #7

Ridiculous! delrem Dec 2014 #8

Agree, Rubio can't ignore the involvement of the Pope flamingdem Dec 2014 #9

French Kissing = SIN olddots Dec 2014 #10

Pushing to make it easier to execute people is probably much more of a sin: Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #11

Gman

(24,780 posts)

1. --on edit-- Actually, it is not a sin to insult the Pope

Reply to leftofcool (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 11:27 PM

Dec 2014

and I taught Catholic catechism. It is not a sin. It's rude.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)

3. Okay, that answers my question. No punishment for rudeness. Thanks

Reply to Gman (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 11:32 PM

Dec 2014

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)

2. "Isn't insulting His Holiness like the ultimate sin?"

Reply to leftofcool (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 11:31 PM

Dec 2014

No.

SylviaD

(721 posts)

4. It's not a sin to insult the pope.

Reply to leftofcool (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 11:39 PM

Dec 2014

It's not even a sin to insult Jesus. It's only a sin to insult the Holy Spirit.

Warpy

(111,271 posts)

5. Technically, there are two living popes

Reply to leftofcool (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 11:41 PM

Dec 2014

and right wing Catholics like Rubio and the stinkers on the Supreme Court could spearhead a schism, conservatives siding with the arch conservative Ratzinger and loyalists with Francis.

It would be very interesting to watch and might distract a bunch of conservatives from politics for a while.

I'm not saying it will happen, only that it is a possibility, even if it is very remote.

chieftain

(3,222 posts)

6. I hope not because

Reply to leftofcool (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 11:57 PM

Dec 2014

I was pretty brutal about Benedict and not too fond of John Paul.

ALBliberal

(2,342 posts)

7. With Rubio being Catholic it seemed shocking

Reply to leftofcool (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 11:57 PM

Dec 2014

That he insulted the Pope. Maybe it's only rude but it won't sit well with fellow Catholics hispanic or not. And this Pope is quite beloved and very respected by the Church. I am pretty shocked that he insulted Pope Francis.

delrem

(9,688 posts)

8. Ridiculous!

Reply to leftofcool (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:03 AM

Dec 2014

When Pope John Paul II publicly embraced Ronald Reagan, after publicly chastising Nicaraguan Priest Ernesto Cardenal, I damned him to hell and gone -- and I did it in front of my Roman Catholic family.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)

9. Agree, Rubio can't ignore the involvement of the Pope

Reply to leftofcool (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:07 AM

Dec 2014

especially this Pope.

olddots

(10,237 posts)

10. French Kissing = SIN

Reply to leftofcool (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:14 AM

Dec 2014

Dissing the Pope ? nah. I'm not Catholic so I don't know if its a sin to French Kiss the Pope .

sorry .

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)

11. Pushing to make it easier to execute people is probably much more of a sin:

Reply to leftofcool (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:25 AM

Dec 2014

Problem: Endless appeals by convicted felons postpone a sense of finality and erode public confidence in the judicial system. Even in the simplest of criminal cases, post-conviction litigation frequently continues for a minimum of 3 years. In death penalty cases the post-conviction process averages 12 years, but in some cases it has consumed up to 20 years before a warrant is signed. With over 370 inmates on death row in Florida, delays of this nature hinder justice for the victims and erode public confidence in Florida's criminal justice system. Very few inmates receive actual relief from the current cumbersome, time-consuming, and expensive process.

Solution: Streamline the appeals process in criminal cases. Florida should create a new, more efficient, less expensive process for reviewing criminal cases that instills more public confidence in the criminal justice system. This could be accomplished by limiting the time convicted felons have to appeal their sentences.

Source: 100 Innovative Ideas, by Marco Rubio, p. 74-75 , Nov 1, 2006

http://www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Marco_Rubio_Crime.htm

Chomping at the bit to execute people kind of contradicts that whole "thou shat not kill" thing, doesn't it?

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