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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 11:17 AM Dec 2014

OK, now the general attitude is that Sony...

is a bunch of cowards, presumably along with the theaters that canceled the showings even before it was pulled.

I don't know if it was the right decision or not, but I can't believe the keyboard heroes here who would so easily risk death and destruction, or even war, over a silly movie.

Yeah, since 9/11 there has been whole load of overreaction, and even a couple of wars, when "terrorism" pops up, but how is it "cowardly" to react to a credible threat where people may be hurt?

If the film were shown and a theater blown up, how does this make Sony the bastion of heroism some are calling for? Is it proper to put other lives on the line in the face of a credible threat?

Rob Lowe never said he would stand up in a theater that might be targeted to show his great courage. In fact, in a massive act of cowardice on his own he complained that others weren't in such a position while he remained perfectly safe.

"Chicken hawk" doesn't apply here?

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brush

(53,787 posts)
1. Probably a good move to pull the movie. Aurora is still fresh in the nation's consciouness
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 11:38 AM
Dec 2014

I mean who's going to go to a movie wondering if the theater is going to be hit by a terrorist attack?

Orrex

(63,215 posts)
4. I don't fault them for pulling the movie
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 11:51 AM
Dec 2014

It actually seems like a fairly compassionate decision IMO. I don't see how Sony could have been held liable if an attack had occurred, so they risk a financial loss on the movie itself, and no one has to be put at risk.

Of course, if an attack had occurred at such a screening, then it's possible that future Sony properties would suffer at the box office, but that's hard to say.

Also, apparently Sony's own internal communications express the view that this film is terrible. One wonders how they'd have responded if we were talking about a film that was likely to rake in a billion dollars, rather than a half-assed throwaway comedy.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
7. I think what you say is pretty close to my view.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 11:56 AM
Dec 2014

I do think that they could also have other viewing options such as VoD to sell the movie cheaply instead.

Since you're right, it is just a throwaway comedy.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
13. Good point...
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:19 PM
Dec 2014

I doubt Sony has the stuff to manufacture this whole fracas, but use it to put a turkey down? Some of them may be thanking North Korea for giving them a good excuse.

In the end, though, it's not worth the hassle putting the film down this way-- plenty of turkeys with high priced stars get trashed in the normal run of things.

G_j

(40,367 posts)
5. theater owners have their concerns too
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 11:54 AM
Dec 2014

as most theaters are multiplex these days, and this is their biggest season.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
8. And I can't believe some North Korean tin-pot dictator would "so easily risk death and destruction..
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 11:56 AM
Dec 2014

"but I can't believe the keyboard heroes here who would so easily risk death and destruction, or even war, over a silly movie."



And I can't believe some North Korean tin-pot dictator would "so easily risk death and destruction, or even war, over a silly movie..."

But I can certainly understand that while some may say "jump", the markets will often respond with "how high?"

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
9. Who thought it was a good idea to make a movie about killing the leader of an enemy country?
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 11:59 AM
Dec 2014

I don't care how dastardly and hated Kim Jong Un is....they should have changed the fucking names for this 'comedy'. It's stupid to think that North Korea wouldn't react as they are, stupid to think this sort of hysteria wouldn't happen.

The decision makers at Sony, and those who penned the screenplay aren't heroes. They're idiots.


 

dburner2

(5 posts)
18. Stupidity
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:54 PM
Dec 2014

Right on avalux I never thought these clowns were funny before this movie the word idiot is too kind.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
10. Really?
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:08 PM
Dec 2014

You think sony pulled the movie to save peoples lives? Probably more an attempt to stop more embarrassing and personal info coming out concerning higher ups and celebrities. It's all about Sony's bottom line and image. Film wouldn't have made much money anyway. Of course they'll spun it as them sacrificing something for the safety of audiences.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
12. I agree.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:13 PM
Dec 2014

Given the nasty content of the other emails that were revealed, it's hard to believe that they care about anybody but themselves.

Those hackers must have some super juicy stuff.

Bragi

(7,650 posts)
15. Maybe the new American Fear State isn't good for business?
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:22 PM
Dec 2014

Having built and nurtured a post-9/11 military-police security state, and culture of fear in America, it now seems that Americans may be easily scared off by just about any group of nobodies who wants to threaten a "9/11 style attack".

It doesn't matter whether its a huge corporation like Sony who will lose tens (if not hundreds) of millions as a result of caving into the likes of the "NK terrorists" who couldn't plausibly organize a plane ride home, let alone a series of terror attacks on thousands of movie theatres in the US.

What matters is that Sony understood the marketplace, and understood that Americans are now so fearful that they will stay home in droves over even the most implausible and stupid threats to their personal safety.

Which suggests that maybe having a populace gripped by fear isn't as good for the marketplace, and for business, as corporate America might have initially thought.

Worth pondering, I'd say.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
16. We might blow up some theaters isn't really a credible threat IMO.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:24 PM
Dec 2014

I may get shot an killed just going to the theater, see Aurora. No movies got cancelled after that except at that theater.

I get it, but I think it's an overreaction.

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