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sunnystarr

(2,638 posts) Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:41 PM Dec 2014

A Solution for SONY and Democracy

Now that SONY has shelved The Interview after theater chains refused to offer the film to the public, it looks like North Korea has won striking a major blow to democracy and the freedom our system is supposed to protect.

I call on SONY to accept the loss, put the movie on YouTube, offer it free to every local and cable provider and distribute the film as widely as possible in as many individual venues as possible. That should remove the concerns about a "target." I'm really all for a 24 hour continuous loop on every TV station around the world. Just for 1 day. Makes me smile just thinking about it lol.

Then the petulant Kim Jong-un can have a tantrum knowing he himself was responsible for the major distribution of the film.

Idiot.

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A Solution for SONY and Democracy (Original Post) sunnystarr Dec 2014 OP

Another brave SONY employee? Or BootinUp Dec 2014 #1

I agree. HappyMe Dec 2014 #2

Begging the question... Sherman A1 Dec 2014 #3

Yes sunnystarr Dec 2014 #6

not from the individual interviewed on CBS this morning Sherman A1 Dec 2014 #12

Wired: The Evidence That North Korea Hacked Sony Is Flimsy 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #13

Very interesting... 2naSalit Dec 2014 #15

Truly, the whole thing stinks. Why the media is not more skeptical is also interesting. Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #17

The people of Gaza were infuriated at Sony nilesobek Dec 2014 #19

North Korean leader Kim Jong-un releases press release on Sony movie hack: Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #4

Is that foreal? 2naSalit Dec 2014 #16

That was my thought too. Put it out on the web for free and ensure it gets the widest possible view on point Dec 2014 #5

The biggest cable provider, Comcast, does not want it. former9thward Dec 2014 #7

It seems like Sony didn't want to get HappyMe Dec 2014 #8

There has got to be a DVD screener floating around mitch96 Dec 2014 #9

Maybe Popcorn Time would do sunnystarr Dec 2014 #10

Here's the problem with that... 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #11

hey can I get a copy on Betamax ?? olddots Dec 2014 #14

Oh noes! Democracy is in trouble! Freedumb and Freeberty! FSogol Dec 2014 #18

BootinUp

(47,165 posts)

1. Another brave SONY employee? Or

Reply to sunnystarr (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:46 PM

Dec 2014

just another keyboard warrior.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)

2. I agree.

Reply to sunnystarr (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:50 PM

Dec 2014

Creative expression is at stake.

There was a guy on Access Hollywood that said it is a funny political satire.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)

3. Begging the question...

Reply to sunnystarr (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:53 PM

Dec 2014

was it North Korea that actually hacked Sony?

sunnystarr

(2,638 posts)

6. Yes

Reply to Sherman A1 (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:02 PM

Dec 2014

WASHINGTON — Hours after an announcement that U.S. authorities determined North Korea was behind the recent cyber-attack on Sony Pictures, the entertainment company announced it was pulling the release of the film The Interview.

...

Earlier Wednesday, a federal law enforcement official offered the news about North Korea.

The official, who is not authorized to comment publicly, said a formal announcement of attribution by the U.S. government could come as soon as Thursday.

U.S. investigators believe the attacks originated outside North Korea, but they have determined that the actions were sanctioned by North Korean leaders, a second U.S. official said Wednesday.

The U.S. government is not prepared to issue formal charges against North Korea or its leadership, but the official, who is not authorized to comment publicly, said a lesser statement of attribution is expected..

more..

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/12/17/north-korea-sony-hack/20558135/

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)

12. not from the individual interviewed on CBS this morning

Reply to sunnystarr (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:15 PM

Dec 2014

he indicated that such cyber attack would have required more infrastructure than NK has available.

So, I have my doubts that a country that really can't keep the lights on, could mount such an attack. Perhaps, but I doubt it.

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)

13. Wired: The Evidence That North Korea Hacked Sony Is Flimsy

Reply to Sherman A1 (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:19 PM

Dec 2014

Today Sony canceled the premiere of “The Interview” and its entire Christmas-Day release of the movie because of fears that terrorists might attack theaters showing the film.

The actions show just how much power the attackers behind the Sony hack have amassed in a short time. But who exactly are they?

1 The New York Times reported this evening that North Korea is “centrally involved” in the hack, citing unnamed U.S. intelligence officials. It’s unclear from the Times report what “centrally involved” means and whether the intelligence officials are saying the hackers were state-sponsored or actually agents of the state. The Times also notes that “It is not clear how the United States came to its determination that the North Korean regime played a central role in the Sony attacks.” The public evidence pointing at the Hermit Kingdom is flimsy.

Other theories of attribution focus on hacktivists—motivated by ideology, politics or something else—or disgruntled insiders who stole the data on their own or assisted outsiders in gaining access to it. Recently, the finger has pointed at China.

In the service of unraveling the attribution mess, we examined the known evidence for and against North Korea.

I highly recommend you read the entire article.

http://www.wired.com/2014/12/evidence-of-north-korea-hack-is-thin/

Sony Hacking Scandal Execs Convinced It's an Inside Job

We're told the people at Sony who are investigating believe the hackers had intimate knowledge of mail systems and their configurations. They also believe the hackers have knowledge of the internal media distribution systems and the internal IT systems, including human resources and payroll.

Several people suggested a possible link between the hackers and Sony layoffs, which included a large number of IT employees.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/12/17/sony-hack-inside-job-north-korea-investigation/

2naSalit

(86,647 posts)

15. Very interesting...

Reply to 951-Riverside (Reply #13)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:34 PM

Dec 2014

Thanks for sharing those links, have to read them later.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)

17. Truly, the whole thing stinks. Why the media is not more skeptical is also interesting.

Reply to 951-Riverside (Reply #13)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 03:55 PM

Dec 2014

nilesobek

(1,423 posts)

19. The people of Gaza were infuriated at Sony

Reply to 951-Riverside (Reply #13)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 05:59 PM

Dec 2014

because the bomb fragments left over from the massacre had Sony labels all over them.

I mean, there's plenty of suspects, people mad at Sony. It going to be hard to sort them all out and get to the truth I suppose. In the meantime, Sony will do anything to keep those e-mails suppressed. I'm sure there's a lot of inflammatory dirt in them.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)

4. North Korean leader Kim Jong-un releases press release on Sony movie hack:

Reply to sunnystarr (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:53 PM

Dec 2014

"You Americans got punked, suckers, your media so predictable!", he cackled in a video taped statement apparently filmed yesterday.

Flanked by a stack of copies of the movie "The Interview" the diminutive leader of the nuclear armed communist country Kim went on to state that he never cared about the movie being shown in theatres.

" I thought it very funny, that Seth Rogan crack me up....and that guy they got look just like me, only too skinny. Who care about fucking movie?"

"I no care about fucking movie, now you see what scardy cats you Americans are bah?!"

Kim was then seen setting fire to papers in a wastebasket and looking into the camera..."OK, that my end of the deal with Sony, emails about you know what....all gone, suckers. I promise, not do again!"

2naSalit

(86,647 posts)

16. Is that foreal?

Reply to Fred Sanders (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:36 PM

Dec 2014

on point

(2,506 posts)

5. That was my thought too. Put it out on the web for free and ensure it gets the widest possible view

Reply to sunnystarr (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:01 PM

Dec 2014

former9thward

(32,025 posts)

7. The biggest cable provider, Comcast, does not want it.

Reply to sunnystarr (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:02 PM

Dec 2014

Comcast Corp. , the nation’s largest cable provider, doesn’t want to offer the movie on-demand due to its political sensitivity, said a person familiar with the company’s thinking.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/sony-cancels-release-of-the-interview-us-blames-pyongyang-for-hack-1418844906?mod=WSJ_hps_sections_business

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)

8. It seems like Sony didn't want to get

Reply to sunnystarr (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:06 PM

Dec 2014

caught with their pants down any more.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025974851#post13

mitch96

(13,912 posts)

9. There has got to be a DVD screener floating around

Reply to sunnystarr (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:07 PM

Dec 2014

Then you could release it as a torrent file and oopsie… it will be out there and no one is to blame.. No Sony, No youtube. There will be no target for the "hackers" to go after…
Sony hates DVD screeners going to torrents…
m

sunnystarr

(2,638 posts)

10. Maybe Popcorn Time would do

Reply to mitch96 (Reply #9)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:14 PM

Dec 2014

http://popcorntime.io/

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)

11. Here's the problem with that...

Reply to sunnystarr (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:15 PM

Dec 2014

I call on SONY to accept the loss, put the movie on YouTube, offer it free to every local and cable provider and distribute the film as widely as possible in as many individual venues as possible. That should remove the concerns about a "target." I'm really all for a 24 hour continuous loop on every TV station around the world. Just for 1 day. Makes me smile just thinking about it lol.

You're assuming that Sony is merely caving to a single online threat of violence when in fact they are likely caving to a threat that is far sinister and damaging.

Sony which has a long history of not securing their data gave the hackers leverage by having all of their business files out in the open and unencrypted. At this point it seems that they're hoping that by not releasing this movie the hackers won't release the other damaging data.

The hackers claim they have over 100tb of data so I'm assuming that they have a ton other stuff that they're not releasing.

The hackers claim to have nearly 100 terabytes of Sony Pictures’ corporate data, and are slowly releasing portions of it online through file-sharing sites. So far, the hackers have revealed emails exchanged between Sony executives, producers and other members of the film industry, as well as five feature films, four of which have not yet been released in theaters.

The data also purportedly contains information about sensitive financial deals between Sony and its corporate partners, which could hurt its relationships with them, the Re/code report said.

http://www.ibtimes.com/sony-corporation-strikes-back-its-using-amazon-servers-attack-torrent-sites-report-1748849

I've always wondered how hackers were able to hack into the cellphones of 100 or so celebs but perhaps if they didn't actually hack into individual phones but got the photos and videos from a single source, maybe from a producer or director.

If the so-called fappening hacks is tied to this Sony hack then I seriously doubt they're going to release the film for free or straight to DVD.

I think they're trying to minimize the damage at this point which is a smart move on their part.

olddots

(10,237 posts)

14. hey can I get a copy on Betamax ??

Reply to sunnystarr (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:23 PM

Dec 2014

FSogol

(45,488 posts)

18. Oh noes! Democracy is in trouble! Freedumb and Freeberty!

Reply to sunnystarr (Original post)

Thu Dec 18, 2014, 04:05 PM

Dec 2014

BTW, thanks for proving my point in this post correct:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025977588#post17

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