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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 05:38 PM Dec 2014

There is strong evidence that white Americans are big supporters of an authoritarian police state

I'm not exactly sure why that is, but it's an interesting phenomenon that I noticed when looking at recent stories in the news media.

This story details how Americans, especially Republicans, are generally supportive of the torture tactics used by Bush/Cheney. We all know that the Republican party is mostly made up of white Americans.

The survey also found a partisan split on the issue of torture. Among Republicans, an overwhelming majority (80 percent) said the Bush-era practices were acceptable, while just 9 percent said they went too far. Among Democrats, 32 percent said the techniques were acceptable under the circumstances, while 44 percent said they were unacceptable.

The full results of the poll, conducted Dec. 10-14, will be released Wednesday.

https://news.yahoo.com/majority-of-americans-approve-cia-torture-poll-190804404.html


This story details how white Americans are more confident than ever that police treat black people fairly



Most White People Are Really Confident Their Local Police Treat Races Equally
By Ariel Edwards-Levy

Most white Americans think their police departments treat black and white people equally -- and some polling suggests recent events have left them more sure than ever.

An NBC/Marist poll released Sunday found that 52 percent of whites, compared with just 12 percent of blacks, have a great deal of confidence that police officers in their community treat blacks and whites equally. More broadly, 82 percent of blacks, and just 39 percent of whites, say law enforcement applies different standards to whites and blacks.

As The Washington Post's Scott Clement notes, while black Americans' ratings haven't changed all that much from past surveys, white confidence in officers' fairness appears to have actually grown 11 points from what was found in a September NBC/Wall Street Journal poll. It's now higher than it's been in six different surveys conducted by other pollsters, dating back to 1995

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/10/white-police-poll_n_6302614.html


And of course when it comes to news organizations, Fox News is the biggest supporter of torture and authoritarian tactics. It's mostly watched by white people:

Only 1% of Fox News Viewers Are Black...92% Are White

Nielsen’s annual look at the racial breakdown of cable news viewers has arrived and once again there are some seriously sharp difference between the big three networks when it comes to the diversity of their viewers.

During the primetime hours of 8-11 p.m., MSNBC’s audience is 24% black, CNN’s audience is 16% black and Fox News’ audience is just 1% black. By comparison MSNBC’s primetime audience is 67% white while CNN’s is 73% white and Fox News’ is 92% white.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/only-1-of-fox-news-viewers-are-black/


And of course there's this:

This Poll Shows America’s Stark Racial Divide Over the Police

According to a Gallup poll released Thursday, only 23% of nonwhites—largely made up of blacks and Hispanics—said they rated the honesty and ethical standards of police officers as “very high” or “high,” a 22-point drop from 2013. The views of non-Hispanic whites, however, remained virtually unchanged. Almost 60% said they rated cops’ ethical standards as very high or high.

http://time.com/3640226/gallup-poll-police-ferguson-ethics/
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There is strong evidence that white Americans are big supporters of an authoritarian police state (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Dec 2014 OP
Who's out there working day by day to preserve the rights of the ruling tribe ? CincyDem Dec 2014 #1
+1000000000000000 2naSalit Dec 2014 #2
Well said. nt Cali_Democrat Dec 2014 #4
Bingo. hifiguy Dec 2014 #7
Those numbers are truly disheartening and more than a little scary. 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #3
No shit. It cuts across racial lines even white people doc03 Dec 2014 #5
Not this white person. Brigid Dec 2014 #6
Nor I. hifiguy Dec 2014 #8
nor any that I know but stereotyping dies hard nt msongs Dec 2014 #9
Um, you left a word out in this statement: ladyVet Dec 2014 #10
#notallwhitepeople gollygee Dec 2014 #11
Kick hifiguy Dec 2014 #12
This does not shock me at all. Starry Messenger Dec 2014 #13
Broadbrush much? 99Forever Dec 2014 #14

CincyDem

(6,363 posts)
1. Who's out there working day by day to preserve the rights of the ruling tribe ?
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 05:47 PM
Dec 2014

An authoritarian police state serves at the wishes of the authorities who are, by and large, white. From a tribal perspective, it's all about preserving the often unearned privileges that come with being part of the ruling tribe. It's obvious in places like Saudi Arabia when you're part of the Saud family. It's less obvious here but to a lesser degree the exact same thing is happening. And the workers keeping things in order (read that "same as its ever been, same as its ever been - thank you David Byrne) are the police.

Remember, where you stand depends on where you sit and today's corollary is that the definition of authoritarian depends on which side of the authority line you're on.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
7. Bingo.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 07:03 PM
Dec 2014

It's all a part of the New Fascism, defined as a feudal economic structure with a modern, high-tech, brutally authoritarian police/propaganda state to keep the peasantry under control.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
3. Those numbers are truly disheartening and more than a little scary.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 05:54 PM
Dec 2014

Esp that most whites feel the cops are treating all races fairly and equally.

I don't know how anyone (white, black or green) could have witnessed the
recent rash of murderous assaults on unarmed black males by white killer-cops, and
then still believe cops are being "fair" ? really?... un-fucking-believable.

doc03

(35,344 posts)
5. No shit. It cuts across racial lines even white people
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 06:52 PM
Dec 2014

that I thought were Democrats even liberals come down on the side of the police.

ladyVet

(1,587 posts)
10. Um, you left a word out in this statement:
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 08:08 PM
Dec 2014
This story details how white Americans are more confident than ever that police treat black people fairly


That word is "some". Some white Americans may believe this, among other things, but not all of us. Some of us are actually disgusted and horrified at some of the things going on in this country -- not to mention the rest of the world. Some of us even live in the South. Imagine that.
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