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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsStudy: Lesbians earn significantly more money than straight women and gay men
In Britain, lesbians are paid an average of eight per cent more than straight women, with the trend even more extreme in other western countries. In the US, the difference is 20 per cent.
Conversely gay men face a pay penalty, earning five per cent less than heterosexual men in the UK - rising to nine per cent in Germany and 12 per cent in Canada.
Dr Nick Drydakis, senior lecturer in economics at Anglia Ruskin University in the UK who authored the World Bank report, said pay differentials were explained by the career and lifestyle choices that gay women were more likely make.
Lesbians may realise early in life that they will not marry into a traditional household, he said.
Decisions might include staying in education longer, choosing a degree more likely to lead to a higher paying job, working longer hours or choosing a male-dominated career path where average salaries are higher. These choices differ from those they would have made had they adopted traditional gender-based household specialisation roles, the study found.
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The labour market values gay mens characteristics less than those of heterosexual men, and the difference in earnings is attributable to the failure of gay men to conform to traditional gender roles, the report said.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/lesbians-earn-more-than-straight-women--but-gay-men-are-penalised-9934289.html
It's an interesting study because it is suggesting that the gender pay gap issue is not placed on a person's gender specifically....it's placed on their gender role and their perceived masculinity/femininity.
The study also found that discrimination against gay men was higher in male-dominated fields, and discrimination against lesbians were higher in female-dominated fields. But homosexuals of both genders were more likely to experience discrimination than their heterosexual counterparts.
ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)I'm curious as to the sample size, the fields sampled, and the age groups
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)Studies involving homosexuals frequently have an issue of how its defined and how to deal with the issue of whether a person is "in our out." So that should be kept in mind.
But it signals that there does need to be more research in the causes of the wage gap and that it might be more complicated. Countries that have even stricter anti-discrimination laws than we have concerning the gender wage gap have seen very little improvement. It doesnt mean those laws are useless, but they may not be attacking the problem in the correct way.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)Which is to say, no primary data collection. The report is interesting though and never says so directly but implies that patriarchal attitudes may account for the positive outcome for lesbians and the negative outcome for gay men.
http://wol.iza.org/articles/sexual-orientation-and-labor-market-outcomes-1.pdf
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)it shouldn't be surprising that the biological ("born this way" differences manifest as different behaviors.
I doubt that there is any data to support this, but anecdotally, most lesbians I know work in STEM and entrepreneurial fields. In contrast, most gay men I know tend toward more artistic/creative, social services and education fields.
Not every measurable difference is attributable to external social forces. Not everything is discrimination, sometimes what the differences are measuring are personal preferences.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)Is there gender discrimination? I mean I am certain there is a certain asshole employer out there who says, "Im going to pay all women less money than all men!" But I seriously doubt this is a world-wide conspiracy against women.
The reality is that men gravitate towards the higher paying careers because men are expected to make the money. Men who go to college tend to stay in college longer than women or get multiple degrees. Men are also more willing than women to negotiate salaries and ask for raises. Men are more willing to work overtime and odd hours (graveyard shifts). If women were willing to do all these things....I bet the wage gap would vanish. In fact, when you look at single women, without children, under age 35...they make MORE money than their male counterparts. But something seems to happen when she marries, and especially when she has her first child...he male co-workers ZOOM ahead of her. And she never catches up.