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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 02:30 PM Dec 2014

Ferguson to Increase Police Ticketing to Close City’s Budget Gap

To close a projected deficit for fiscal 2014, which ended June 30, the municipality will deplete a $10 million capital-projects reserve, Jeffrey Blume, Ferguson’s finance director, said in a telephone interview. For the current year, the city is budgeting for higher receipts from police-issued tickets.

“There are a number of things going on in 2014 and one is a revenue shortfall that we anticipate making up in 2015,” Blume said.
“There’s about a million-dollar increase in public-safety fines to make up the difference.”

Revenue from violations, which already represents the city’s second-largest source of cash after sales taxes, will rise to 15.7 percent of receipts in fiscal 2015, from a projected 11.8 percent this year, he said. In 2013, fines brought in $2.2 million, or 11.8 percent of the city’s $18.62 million in annual revenue, according to budget documents.
Last Reserve

Even with the increased ticketing, a $4.09 million revenue shortfall will remain for fiscal 2015. The city will bridge that gap by drawing on its $10.3 million unassigned reserve, the last of its reserve funds, Blume said. Moody’s Investors Service cited an inability to maintain reserves at satisfactory levels as a potential downgrade trigger in a report from December 2012http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-12/ferguson-to-increase-police-ticketing-to-close-city-s-budget-gap.html.

In plain language:
"that shit we pulled of ripping off citizens for spurious tickets, we're gonna do more of it"

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Ferguson to Increase Police Ticketing to Close City’s Budget Gap (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 OP
Exactly Just for Fun Dec 2014 #1
Because we know that will improve relations with the community.... daleanime Dec 2014 #2
In other words... RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #16
In other words... Wounded Bear Dec 2014 #3
Exactly. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 #10
No shame Feral Child Dec 2014 #4
Oh that's a good idea ... the citizens of Fergusen must be elated etherealtruth Dec 2014 #5
This is something that affects poor people more. Trillo Dec 2014 #6
What could go wrong?! nt Ykcutnek Dec 2014 #7
People should refuse to pay the fines and do the jail time instead. nt Malraiders Dec 2014 #8
So if everyone drove especially carefully in the city limits Savannahmann Dec 2014 #9
Driving under the speed limit could be considered 'impeding traffic' also... 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #13
not if you maintain the speed limit. RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #17
Brilliant. There is no possible negative outcome to this idea. arcane1 Dec 2014 #11
More people stopped equals more people beat down or shot. n/t benz380 Dec 2014 #12
The BOHICA principle in action hifiguy Dec 2014 #14
This is a big part of the problems there in the first place. Maybe they can open a new source by add jwirr Dec 2014 #15
Why does a city of only 6 sq miles need so much money? PotatoChip Dec 2014 #18
Seems like a lot. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 #19
 

Just for Fun

(149 posts)
1. Exactly
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 02:31 PM
Dec 2014

When I saw this, your last sentence describes my feelings perfectly.

Ferguson police should shut itself down, and get the state police to take over.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
10. Exactly.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 02:48 PM
Dec 2014

btw....this is how the revolution happened in Egypt last year.
One guy got so tired of being ripped off by the local thieves disguised as gov't collectors that he set himself on fire.
Quite literally ignited a revolution.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
5. Oh that's a good idea ... the citizens of Fergusen must be elated
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 02:35 PM
Dec 2014


I listened to the broadcast "town hall meetings" following Michael Brown's murder ... even theough the "powers that be" in fergusen were there ... they clearly did NOT listen

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
6. This is something that affects poor people more.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 02:37 PM
Dec 2014

For one example, if you're lucky enough to have a car, your taillight might be out, since you can't afford a new car every couple of years.

I suspect the police can "shake down" just about anyone and find some law that's being broken when they really want to get you for something. That's one of the problems of our highly complicated and loophole ridden laws.

The whole concept of progressive income taxes to balance the disparities in incomes between the very wealthy and the poor are so completely undermined by fees and fines, the whole system has just become a joke, perhaps a bad nightmare.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
9. So if everyone drove especially carefully in the city limits
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 02:39 PM
Dec 2014

I'm talking about driving five miles an hour below the speed limit. The cops in Ferguson would go broke? Awesome.

Of course, you can't rule out the police lying, so the citizens will have to get dashboard cameras to show they weren't speeding, weaving all over the road recklessly, failure to stop, running red lights and all that jazz.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
13. Driving under the speed limit could be considered 'impeding traffic' also...
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 02:54 PM
Dec 2014

changing lanes could be considered 'failure to maintain lanes' just like getting your license and registration out of the glove compartment could be considered 'reaching for a firearm'.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
17. not if you maintain the speed limit.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 03:38 PM
Dec 2014

If you go ONE MPH over the speed limit it is considered speeding. Most speedometers are calibrated to under report the actual speed, by 1-3 mph.
Besides, I have heard of people getting fines for driving too slow, but much slower than 5 mph under the limit.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
11. Brilliant. There is no possible negative outcome to this idea.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 02:51 PM
Dec 2014

The residents of Ferguson have surely been thinking the police have been too easy on them all this time

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
15. This is a big part of the problems there in the first place. Maybe they can open a new source by add
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 02:57 PM
Dec 2014

adding whites to the harassment list.

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
18. Why does a city of only 6 sq miles need so much money?
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 04:15 PM
Dec 2014

Apparently there are over 21,000 people, which makes it a pretty densely populated place.

But still; geesh... The Ferguson Police Department has an annual budget of $5,282,900!

The Ferguson Police Department includes 72 personnel including 54 commissioned officers and 18 civilian support staff.[1] The officers are all police academy graduates and are certified peace officers by the Missouri Department of Public Safety.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferguson_Police_Department_(Missouri)

I couldn't find numbers for other paid city employees, but I wonder if they are just as bloated? What else could explain their needing $18.6 million if it is just for the usual necessary services for 21,000 people residing in 6 sq miles?

Is it just me, or does that seem like a lot?
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