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LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 02:47 PM Dec 2014

CUBA: What are your vacation plans.....

There's a whole new world opening up just 90 miles south of Florida and I have to think that Cuba is going to be an interesting place for a few years until the Corporations take it over and turn it into another blah cookie cutter Caribbean destination. So I am curious to see what DUers thoughts about the opening of Cuba.


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I am still upset this embargo is even dropped and would never consider visiting this Godless nation
0 (0%)
I am still upset this embargo is even dropped because it will ruin the mystic of trying to sneak into visiting Cuba
0 (0%)
I've already found a way to visit Cuba so not sure what the big deal is all about
1 (6%)
I would like to visit Cuba before it gets over-run by all the big Corporations looking to cash in on a new Caribbean vacation spot
12 (75%)
I'll wait to visit Cuba after all the Corporations take over because that means cheaper vacations to this new spot
0 (0%)
I'm not an American so I could travel there whenever I liked!
0 (0%)
meh
0 (0%)
Other.
3 (19%)
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CUBA: What are your vacation plans..... (Original Post) LynneSin Dec 2014 OP
Before the chains and Spring Breakers invade eissa Dec 2014 #1
The one place I want to visit before I die. silverweb Dec 2014 #2
I want to go there for the music LynneSin Dec 2014 #7
Si! silverweb Dec 2014 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author silverweb Dec 2014 #22
BC, regulator, mask and fins are already packed. Scuba Dec 2014 #3
I'd love to see it while actual Cubans are still in charge of things. hifiguy Dec 2014 #4
There may or may not still be ivory billed woodpeckers there. yellowcanine Dec 2014 #5
Visiting Cuba has long been on my bucket list Ruby the Liberal Dec 2014 #6
From what I am reading it may be the Cruise lines that get in there first LynneSin Dec 2014 #11
This insane embargo is only ours Ruby the Liberal Dec 2014 #14
Americans go there all the time, it's just that it's tricky justiceischeap Dec 2014 #17
Caribbean is Caribbean JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #8
I never got 'All-inclusive resorts' LynneSin Dec 2014 #12
Exactly! JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #18
There is so much Culture to experience. It's like drinking Miller light Beer LynneSin Dec 2014 #19
Moorea, Tahiti is magnificent SoCalDem Dec 2014 #20
I'm not much of a beach person, but I want to go to Havana. LuvNewcastle Dec 2014 #10
I was in Havana in 1951 SoCalDem Dec 2014 #21
will go when I can afford it nt steve2470 Dec 2014 #13
what's a vacation? Who gets to go on vacations these days anyway? I know it sure is hell isn't me liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #15
I go regularly. Mika Dec 2014 #16
+1 Go Vols Dec 2014 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Dec 2014 #23
'We" are McDonalds? Ugh. roody Dec 2014 #33
The Caribbean was where Americans went to when access to Cuba was closed Major Nikon Dec 2014 #25
Hola from Cuba! Renew Deal Dec 2014 #26
I voted for Other because I'm on a fixed income and can't afford to travel. But if I could afford Louisiana1976 Dec 2014 #27
Gate 1 Travel has a state dept. approved people-to-people program in Cuba Divernan Dec 2014 #28
I know we could go to Cuba but it wasn't cheap and you had to jump through alot of hoops LynneSin Dec 2014 #31
I'm going to wait until Mike Corleone and Hyman Roth get the casinos and hotels up and running. Sheldon Cooper Dec 2014 #29
I think there is an issue with Freddie, he's been doing alot of fishing lately LynneSin Dec 2014 #32
You can go there today if you really want. Fly CubaJet from Jamaica NightWatcher Dec 2014 #30
I hate to piss on anyone's parade, but... Travelman Dec 2014 #34

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
2. The one place I want to visit before I die.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 03:10 PM
Dec 2014

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]I have so much admiration for the Cuban people and their spirit, for all they've accomplished in spite of the embargo and US condemnation, for all their humanitarian contributions.




LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
7. I want to go there for the music
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 03:30 PM
Dec 2014

"Buena Vista Social Club" has got to be one of my favorite movie soundtracks of all time.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
9. Si!
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 03:56 PM
Dec 2014

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Pandora has a Cuban music station and I love it! (includes the Buena Vista Social Club" soundtrack.)

Have to brush up on my bad Spanish, though.

Response to LynneSin (Reply #7)

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
4. I'd love to see it while actual Cubans are still in charge of things.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 03:17 PM
Dec 2014

Beautiful beaches, great food and rum, fine cigars. Sounds like an ideal vacation. Check out some Cuban/Afro-Cuban jazz at night.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
5. There may or may not still be ivory billed woodpeckers there.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 03:21 PM
Dec 2014

Probably not but birders everywhere would freak out big time if someone would report seeing one. And you can be sure someone would.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
6. Visiting Cuba has long been on my bucket list
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 03:27 PM
Dec 2014

With the exception of the DR (also on the list) and Haiti, I have been to most every Caribbean island. LOVE the climate down there with the trade winds blowing.

My local paper published this morning that individuals can't go, but private groups can. In the article, it said that the local Chamber of Commerce has already booked a week in May and published the price and ticket contact information. That seems awfully quick. If for no other reason than transportation. We know the airlines will add routes to Havana, but who knows how long that will take (and how much it will cost).

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
11. From what I am reading it may be the Cruise lines that get in there first
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 04:29 PM
Dec 2014

Although there are hotels in Cuba many may not be up to standards for what Americans might like (again they want Corporate USA hotels in there). Hence why it would be the Cruises lines first to invade Cuba because Americans could visit the country for a few hours and then go back to all their fancy surroundings that night.

Me, if I go I want authentic Cuba!

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
14. This insane embargo is only ours
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 04:41 PM
Dec 2014

Canadians and Europeans have been flocking there all this time. I have friends who have both flown there and taken cruise ships there.

As for me, no way in hades am I getting on a floating Petri dish. Been on a few cruises in the 90s and consider myself lucky - and I am not about to push that luck. LOL I'll plan to wait until the airlines open up!

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
17. Americans go there all the time, it's just that it's tricky
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 04:47 PM
Dec 2014

You have to have a "legitimate" reason to go. I've had two friends go: one group of friends entered via Mexico as aid workers I believe and the other was part of a photography workshop.

I'm waiting for it to open up so I can fly there without having to pay like $5k or some ridiculous price to gain access.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
8. Caribbean is Caribbean
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 03:39 PM
Dec 2014

Yet another all inclusive with nothing much to do off the resort? There are so many boutique properties I want to visit in Central and South America - and this year is either Thailand or Fiji/Tahiti.

Maybe in 20 years when I don't want to get out and see/do as much.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
12. I never got 'All-inclusive resorts'
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 04:30 PM
Dec 2014

To me that was like just staying at home but hiring someone to do all the cooking and cleaning.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
18. Exactly!
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 04:53 PM
Dec 2014

Did it once - and never again. It blows my mind when people tell me they are going to St. Martin and staying all inclusive. With all of the French restaurants and cafes in Marigot? Cray cray!

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
19. There is so much Culture to experience. It's like drinking Miller light Beer
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 05:07 PM
Dec 2014

Sure it tastes like Beer and if you drink enough of it you might get drunk. But in the end will you really enjoy the experience? But when you get a great, well crafted beer it is such an amazing experience because you have flavors to really enjoy and honestly, I don't drink these crafted beers to get drunk but to enjoy the experience.

LuvNewcastle

(16,847 posts)
10. I'm not much of a beach person, but I want to go to Havana.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 04:04 PM
Dec 2014

I always wanted to visit New Orleans in the 1950's.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
21. I was in Havana in 1951
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 05:46 PM
Dec 2014

I was a toddler, so I remember nothing, but there's a family picture of me when Dorothy Lamour picked me up and sang to me It was at some swanky restaurant..

I also still have a bottle of water & sand that my Aunt took with her ..from Veradero Beach

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
15. what's a vacation? Who gets to go on vacations these days anyway? I know it sure is hell isn't me
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 04:42 PM
Dec 2014

and my family.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
16. I go regularly.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 04:44 PM
Dec 2014

Cuba isn't isolated at all.
There's grand hotels, resorts, cruise liners, etc etc, just like other Caribbean island tourism destinations.
It is America(ns) that are self-isolated from Cuba.




Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
24. +1
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 06:27 PM
Dec 2014

I have been to Cuba 3 times via Cancun over the last 25 years.They don't stamp your passport if you choose, so no hassle when coming home.

Response to LynneSin (Original post)

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
25. The Caribbean was where Americans went to when access to Cuba was closed
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 06:31 PM
Dec 2014

So substitute "the Corporations" for the Mafia and it's back to business.

Louisiana1976

(3,962 posts)
27. I voted for Other because I'm on a fixed income and can't afford to travel. But if I could afford
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 07:23 PM
Dec 2014

to I'd want to visit Cuba before the corporations took over travel there.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
28. Gate 1 Travel has a state dept. approved people-to-people program in Cuba
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 07:49 PM
Dec 2014

which has been active for 3 years. I used this agency for a solo trip to Istanbul some years back and it was quite reputable and gave good value for the money. Gave me a choice of air carriers (I took Air France), hotels, and optional day & evening activities. I've always wanted to see Cuba - but 2008 wiped out my retirement savings/foreign travel activities. If I could afford it, I would go there with this program.

Re it's Cuba program:

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LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
31. I know we could go to Cuba but it wasn't cheap and you had to jump through alot of hoops
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 10:48 PM
Dec 2014

It would be nice to go without the hassle and not worry you're on some secret CIA 'bad person' list.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
30. You can go there today if you really want. Fly CubaJet from Jamaica
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 10:09 PM
Dec 2014

You can fly to an island near there and take a boat over or another flight.

Travelman

(708 posts)
34. I hate to piss on anyone's parade, but...
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 11:59 PM
Dec 2014

...for the ordinary tourist, nothing has changed.

The "prohibition on travel to Cuba" has never actually existed. It has never actually been illegal to go to Cuba. Yesterday, today, a week ago, or a decade ago, it was and has been completely legal for any U.S. citizen to board a plane to Havana from Cancun or Montreal or London or Mexico City or anywhere else. And even with a Cuban stamp in your passport, there would not be any actual legal problem (though the Customs agent might give you some hassle).

It has only been illegal to SPEND MONEY in Cuba. The law officially says that Americans may not monetarily support Cuba in any way, so I was at least technically in violation of the law when I bought a couple of Cuban cigars in London about ten years ago (they weren't THAT great anyway, frankly). So you can legally fly into Havana, but you can't legally pay to take a taxi from the airport, for example. Obviously, spending money at hotels, casinos, restaurants, and bars is right out, too. So, I suppose, one could theoretically legally fly into Havana and walk everywhere until you fly back out, but that's not much of a vacation.

The only way that the embargo can legally be lifted is by Congress, and that's pretty unlikely to happen any time soon.



So for the time being, the only legal way to vacation in Cuba is under some aegis that gets blessing from the Treasury Department (and, to some degree, the State Department). For the most part, that's "journalism" and "cultural exchange" and the like. There are certainly companies out there (such as Gate1, noted above) that have organized trips, and they'll help with the immense amount of paperwork, but at the end of the day, it's still a decision at the whim of the Treasury Department to allow a U.S. citizen to go spend money vacationing in Cuba.

I've had at least a dozen calls at my office today already asking for when we're going to set up trips for people to Cuba, and I've had to explain this over and over again, unfortunately.

It will certainly happen some day, but that day is not tomorrow or next month and almost certainly not next year. Royal Caribbean is not adding Puerto de la Habana to their ports-of-call just yet. Getting things like diplomatic representation there is a BIG step forward, but it's not the be-all, end-all of opening up Cuba for the typical American tourist.


Sorry.

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