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(149,640 posts)Of course, the Republican Congress will pass it.
I hope he will veto it when they do that.
Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)Isn't it about time our President does the right thing on one more huge issue, and SCRAP the TPP?
BeanMusical
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Cha
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(297,323 posts)global1
(25,253 posts)he said we'd get a million jobs if we fixed bridges and roads. He's right - there is no comparison in the amount of jobs we'd get from Keystone compared to infrastructure.
If it's jobs the Repubs want - then they should be for infrastructure rebuilding.
We need to keep reminding them of that.
Cha
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Pres. Obama on #KeystoneXL: "It's not going to be a huge benefit to U.S. consumers. It's not even a nominal benefit to U.S. consumers"
9:33 AM - 19 Dec 2014 28 Retweets 11 favorites
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President Obama to those touting #KeystoneXL: Its hard to see on paper where exactly theyre getting that information from."
9:36 AM - 19 Dec 2014 21 Retweets 11 favorites
http://theobamadiary.com/2014/12/19/president-obama-holds-a-news-conference-2/#comments
Hekate
(90,714 posts)Every word PBO has said about Keystone has been measured and designed to cast doubt on its efficacy. He's been casting doubt on its ability to benefit the 99%.
Today was as clear as a bell: It's Canadian oil. It's going to cross our land. It's going to be sold on the world market. It has nothing zero nada zip zilch to do with gas prices in the US. Almost no jobs will be created.
But he's going to wait for the latest study to cross his desk, and then for the bill to be written and passed through both houses of Congress.
Then he is going to veto the sucker. But why would he want to borrow trouble in advance by telling the GOP that?
madokie
(51,076 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)After the mid-tems he said basically the same thing. Good on him.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)This is the Democratic way of achieving a long term solution to a problem. In 2 more years TransCanada won't even want to build it.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)I bet she chooses her words a little more carefully next time Obama calls on her
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Takeaways from the Obama presser: No men, no phonetic spelling, no Keystone, no Belgian Politico. See you guys in Hawaii.
9:34 AM - 19 Dec 2014 35 Retweets 18 favorites
http://theobamadiary.com/2014/12/19/president-obama-holds-a-news-conference-2/#comments
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VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)at all you haters (and YOU know who you are...) that thought you KNEW he WOULD Definitely support Keystone Pipeline.....
It appears YOU don't know him as well as you think you do....it seems he is rickrolling you....
One of this President's strongest suits....has been the element of surprise....just think about that...how many times has he surprised us so far????
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)I can't watch video at the moment. You seem awfully confident that he will block it. What exactly did he say?
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)And I won't hold my breath in the meantime...
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)do not underestimate him. You should have learned that by now....
Marr
(20,317 posts)Obama also said he would not sign a healthcare bill without a Public Option, you know. Words are free. This is politics, and this issue is political currency.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)and I did watch the video....did YOU?
Marr
(20,317 posts)I'm hopeful that he will block it. His words certainly leave the door open for doing so. However, I did not hear a promise to veto any legislation-- did you?
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)about the man yet?
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. of Riverkeepers, has said, even when being arrested for civil disobedience in front of the White House in an anti-Keystone protest, that he knew Obama would not sign on to it.
Why should he sign onto it?
He's been very consistent in delaying and resisting it. He has not only said what he said here before, but that it would add to climate change and the money made would not help the American people. Becuase it s not going to be taxed. The Koch brothers stand to DOUBLE their current net worth in one year's operation. They own ends of it and threatened PBO in 2010 if he didn't go along, he'd pay a political price. He did.
They launched the Tea Party to push this through and renew the Bush tax cuts. As soon as the Tea Party got the majority, they threatened government shut down for not going along.
It's going to be a hard road until 2017. They will keep pushing for it. He will resist. He's stronger and smarter than a lot of people think.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)they will know in the future just how much!
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)buying your way off planet and certainly enough for a viable population is a fairly long term project.
Anybody that has any extended interest in any portion of humanity then you can't just completely shit the nest.
For those of us that have a general concern for all people and even all life, it isn't a debate.
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)But can dropping crude prices punch a hole in the controversial project?
The cost of benchmark West Texas Intermediate oil dropped to $74.42 a barrel on Thursday a 25% drop from the triple-digit highs it reached this summer. Federal analysts have warned that producers in the Canadian oil sands slated to be a top consumer of the pipeline will need oil prices to stay between $65 and $75 a barrel to make production there economically feasible.
"Assuming prices fell in this range, higher transportation costs could have a substantial impact on oil sands production levels possibly in excess of the capacity of the proposed project," said a U.S. State Department report on the pipeline released in January....
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/11/13/crude-keystone-project/18994601/
We may not need a veto.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)"We wouldn't mind turning the heartland into a giant oil slick, but only if we can get rich from it"
True Blue Door
(2,969 posts)"A sphincter says what?" routine.