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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 08:45 AM Dec 2014

Goodbye, Middle Class

Last edited Tue Dec 23, 2014, 09:23 AM - Edit history (1)

17 Things We Learned About Income Inequality in 2014
12/23/14

....5) Goodbye, Middle Class

The growing gulf in earnings between America’s richest and everyone else means that the group that's historically fallen in the middle, living a life of neither luxury or poverty, is shrinking. In 2013, median household income was $51,939, still eight percent lower than in 2007, the year before the recession started, according to Census data.

A recent report by the Center for American Progress shows that in 1979, a majority of American households (59.5 percent) had earnings that qualified them as middle class (defined as working-age households with incomes between 0.5 and 1.5 times the median national income). In 2012, the share of middle class families had fallen to 45.1 percent, indicating that American households have become more concentrated at the top and bottom of the earnings ladder.

Why is that a problem? For one thing, mobility: More of the middle class is migrating to the lower class due to stagnant incomes and the increasing cost of living—which means more Americans are struggling to make ends meet. That’s not just bad for families; it's bad for the economy. A recent study of income inequality at Washington University in St. Louis suggested that a depleted middle class can lead to a downturn in demand for goods and services, a bad outcome for businesses and the economy as a whole....



http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/12/17-things-we-learned-about-income-inequality-in-2014/383917/



Adding #8 too, since its pretty critical to understanding our "recovery" and why we're still hurting...
...Yes, the economy is picking up steam and employers are finally creating jobs. But that doesn’t mean that the jobs created are the jobs needed to spur economic growth.

Low-wage industries have added 3.8 million jobs since February 2010, although the industry lost just two million jobs during the recession, according a report from the National Employment Law Project. In the meantime, higher-wage industries have added just 2.6 million positions during the recovery, although they shed 3.6 million jobs during the recession.

Jobs in food service, retail stores, and temp firms are leading the recovery, according to the report–they accounted for 39 percent of private-sector employment gains in the past four years.
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Goodbye, Middle Class (Original Post) RiverLover Dec 2014 OP
Wages have returned to 1995 levels, I read. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 #1
I don't get it either. nt RiverLover Dec 2014 #2
What's not to get? The2ndWheel Dec 2014 #12
evolution is a natural process. the 'economy' is created by human beings, not nature. NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #36
"For most workers, real wages have barely budged for decades." merrily Dec 2014 #16
Needless to say ... JEFF9K Dec 2014 #3
You get what you vote for. Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #4
THIS Takket Dec 2014 #6
"Meanwhile, voters flee...." RiverLover Dec 2014 #8
So, in your world, Leadership has no responsibility for society? adirondacker Dec 2014 #10
Who was voted for over the last 50 years? Please see the article linked in Reply 16. merrily Dec 2014 #17
neocon vs. neolib doesn't count as a "choice" MisterP Dec 2014 #29
Totally agree MisterP. nt RiverLover Dec 2014 #30
You have no sympathy for real suffering and privation? One in five American KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #32
I'm definitely feeling it. deutsey Dec 2014 #5
The OP has a good graph on Household Income too. Peaked under Clinton then pampango Dec 2014 #7
According to Pew, real wages have barely budged in decades.. merrily Dec 2014 #18
Great graph. Looks there were wage peaks in 1972 and 1980 a long decline until the mid-1990's when pampango Dec 2014 #25
Yes, much like employment figures don't reflect that some people are holding two or three jobs or merrily Dec 2014 #31
You better get used to the fact that Republicans "by design" are worKing diligently to overturn world wide wally Dec 2014 #9
with the help of the corporate Dems. nt antigop Dec 2014 #20
Dismantling of the New Deal has been a bipartisan effort. merrily Dec 2014 #22
Exactly. We need our party back before throwing all stones at rethugs. RiverLover Dec 2014 #24
Most of our Presidents have been flawed, to say the least. I like to think that, going forward, we merrily Dec 2014 #26
The Middle Class was killed by Reagan's fiscal policies and kept dead by a couple of Bushes Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #11
Reagan was a brutal President. Make no bones about it. But He was a propagandist's dream. Tommymac Dec 2014 #13
K&R.... daleanime Dec 2014 #14
People continue to imagine they are middle class, much to the delight of politicians. merrily Dec 2014 #15
And what's worse, they think they can work themselves into the top 1%. lonestarnot Dec 2014 #19
I'm very interested in what the post Neo-Guilded Age will bring! Cosmic Kitten Dec 2014 #21
+1 nt RiverLover Dec 2014 #23
K & R Quantess Dec 2014 #27
You mean if 99% of the country isn't making enough to support the 2/3 of the economy that liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #28
Middle Class, Middle Class, Middle Class, Middle Class, Middle Class, Middle Class, Middle Class, JanMichael Dec 2014 #33
LMFAO RiverLover Dec 2014 #34
May also affect police work. moondust Dec 2014 #35

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
1. Wages have returned to 1995 levels, I read.
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 08:53 AM
Dec 2014

Real inflation has doubled the price of necessities.


I do not get why the corporations seem oblivious to the fact that no middle class means no buying their stuff.
They seem pretty happy to abandon US markets entirely.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
12. What's not to get?
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 10:56 AM
Dec 2014

You're not needed. Whether it's the increasing abstraction of stock prices, or more of the world's population able to do the job anywhere, or just the simple act of getting more for less that everyone tries to do in every sphere of life, and I don't know why corporations and jobs would be any different in that regard, or automation and all that, any individual just isn't needed as much. Unless you're bringing something to the table that most other people can't or don't.

Evolution and adaptation can be messy.

 

NewDeal_Dem

(1,049 posts)
36. evolution is a natural process. the 'economy' is created by human beings, not nature.
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 03:07 AM
Dec 2014

you're not needed either, bubelah.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
8. "Meanwhile, voters flee...."
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 09:32 AM
Dec 2014
Democrats are pushing race and environmental issues when they should be embracing the lunch-bucket themes that once built party dominance. Meanwhile, voters flee.

Once giants walked this earth, and some of them were Democrats. In sharp contrast to the thin gruel that passes for leadership today, the old party of the people, with all its flaws, shaped much of the modern world, and usually for the better. Think of Franklin Roosevelt or Harry Truman, John Kennedy, or California’s Pat Brown, politicians who believed in American greatness, economic growth, and upward mobility.

For more than 40 years, the Democratic Party has drifted far from this tradition, its policies increasingly a blend of racial and gender politics combined with a fashionable brand of environmental fanaticism.

No longer does it constitute a reliable, middle class-based alternative to the corporatist mindset of the Republicans.

“Today’s Democrats have no more in common with Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, John F. Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson ,” notes author Michael Lind, “than today’s Republicans have in common with Abraham Lincoln or Dwight Eisenhower. “...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/21/time-to-bring-back-the-truman-democrats.html

adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
10. So, in your world, Leadership has no responsibility for society?
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 10:39 AM
Dec 2014

Kind of amounts to victim blaming, which conservatives relish.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
29. neocon vs. neolib doesn't count as a "choice"
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 06:56 PM
Dec 2014

or do you truly and seriously believe "vote Dem and all your problems will go away forever"?

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
32. You have no sympathy for real suffering and privation? One in five American
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 11:57 PM
Dec 2014

children currently experiences at least one episode of hunger per month, comrade. And still you have no sympathy?

pampango

(24,692 posts)
7. The OP has a good graph on Household Income too. Peaked under Clinton then
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 09:18 AM
Dec 2014

declined under Bush and the Great Recession and has turned up slightly in 2011 or 2012.

Real Median Household Income by Race

merrily

(45,251 posts)
18. According to Pew, real wages have barely budged in decades..
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 11:32 AM
Dec 2014

Please see the article linked in Reply 16.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
25. Great graph. Looks there were wage peaks in 1972 and 1980 a long decline until the mid-1990's when
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 12:18 PM
Dec 2014

there began a gradual increase until 2000. Then there was a slight decline until 2009 when there was a slight increase.

All-in-all not much of a change over 50 years from 1964 ($19.18) to 2014 ($20.67).

Thanks for the useful chart, merrily.

The chart I posted dealt with total family income so a little different from individual wages, reflecting more people working in each family.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
31. Yes, much like employment figures don't reflect that some people are holding two or three jobs or
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 11:38 PM
Dec 2014

a lot of other info that might make the total numbers seem less positive in the real world.

As one of my former partners used to say, "Figures lie and liars figure." (And he was the partner in charge of reporting financial info to the other partners! Any wonder that I went out on my own?)

world wide wally

(21,745 posts)
9. You better get used to the fact that Republicans "by design" are worKing diligently to overturn
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 10:31 AM
Dec 2014

anything related to The New Deal" and benefits working Americans. They have a vision of a two class society; the aristocracy and the working class poor (see Dicken's "A Christmas Carol" for illustrations).

merrily

(45,251 posts)
22. Dismantling of the New Deal has been a bipartisan effort.
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 11:51 AM
Dec 2014

Bankrupcy Act of 1934, replaced by Bankruptcy Code of 1978 (Carter and a Democratic majority inboth houses of Congress), thereby making it easier for officers and directors of corporations to pull shenanigans on stockholders; repeal of Glass Steagall, urged by both Clinton and Greenspan, Clinton also bragged about having ended "welfare as we know it," Obama put cuts to Social Security and Medicare on the table. Yes, Republicans dismantled as well, but pretending all economic issues that disadvantage the poor and the middle class were accomplished by Republicans alone is silly--and that's even before we get to sixty vote rules that Democrats did not use to block certain things and Presidential vetoes that Democratic Presidents, including FDR himself, did not exercise to stop dismantling of New Deal programs and legislation.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
26. Most of our Presidents have been flawed, to say the least. I like to think that, going forward, we
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 12:22 PM
Dec 2014

can do better than we did 60 to 80 years ago or more. But, I sure do agree that the pretense that all of the problems of the 99% are attributable to Republicans and only Republicans is a self-defeating form of tunnel vision. At best.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
11. The Middle Class was killed by Reagan's fiscal policies and kept dead by a couple of Bushes
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 10:50 AM
Dec 2014

The people who supported and enforced Reaganomics were the most greedy, short sighted and flat out stupid lot of Americans since they stopped hanging witches in Salem.
But let's remember who we are dealing with when we speak of Reagan and the sort of voter that responded to him. Reagan's communications director was Pat Buchanan. Pat Buchanan. Here is a sample of Pat's 1980's style:
"The poor homosexuals -- they have declared war upon nature, and now nature is extracting an awful retribution (AIDS)."
"There were no politics to polarize us then, to magnify every slight. The 'negroes' of Washington had their public schools, restaurants, bars, movie houses, playgrounds and churches; and we had ours."
"Take a hard look at (David) Duke's portfolio of winning issues and expropriate those not in conflict with GOP principles, [such as] reverse discrimination against white folks."

Some on DU insist that Reagan and his Republicans were moderates, kindly and gentle, that the Republicans were different back then and that reasonable people often voted for their delightful messages and sound fiscal policies. They are incorrect. This was Reagan's communications director.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
13. Reagan was a brutal President. Make no bones about it. But He was a propagandist's dream.
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 11:12 AM
Dec 2014

His admiration's polices were brutal towards the poor and non white segments of the US, and the 'party' atmosphere of the 80's masked their inherent deadliness to the middle class. The cold war was winding down - no matter what we did the USSR was going to collapse under it's own inefficiencies; it is largely a myth his extreme military machismo was the root cause of the defeat of World Communism. Instead, he expanded the military at great cost to the US's national treasure - this transfer of wealth into the dead end of arms spending was the initial body blow dealt to of the middle class - as designed by the oligarchs who were the real power behind the throne. They wanted no more 60's style demonstrations - and their solution was to destroy the leisure time the middle class enjoyed and put to use demonstrating for a better world.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
21. I'm very interested in what the post Neo-Guilded Age will bring!
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 11:45 AM
Dec 2014

This Neo-Guilded Age we are experiencing cannot survive.

The ONLY upside (if that's possible) is less mindless consumerism.
Hopefully people are looking closely at what they value and
what they truly need from our material culture.
Perhaps in a reflective moment the majority of US will recognize
that we are all in the same boat... that the divisions we imagine
will dissolve in the light of a new day?

The potential for a new mindset about our depleting resources,
the burden we all put upon the environment and the interdependence
we share will emerge once the neo-robberbarrons have amused themselves to death?

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
28. You mean if 99% of the country isn't making enough to support the 2/3 of the economy that
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 06:23 PM
Dec 2014

is held up by the consumer, that is bad for the economy? Nah, it can't be. Don't you know that if you make the 1% richer then the wealth will trickle down?

JanMichael

(24,890 posts)
33. Middle Class, Middle Class, Middle Class, Middle Class, Middle Class, Middle Class, Middle Class,
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 11:58 PM
Dec 2014

Marsha Marsha Marsha!

moondust

(19,993 posts)
35. May also affect police work.
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 03:00 AM
Dec 2014

With law enforcement becoming more like a protection racket for the 1% who would rather not be bothered by those growing numbers of poor people.

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