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4. Rudy Giuliani did more to ruin the NYPD than the most fevered fantasies of a militantly liberal Bill de Blasio.
5. In June, Jerad and Amanda Miller shot two police officers and another person dead in Las Vegas. They had come from the standoff at the ranch of Cliven Bundy, where a bunch of white shitheels actually pointed guns at federal agents and everyone went home without a shot being fired or anyone being arrested, despite Bundy being guilty of essentially the same crime as Eric Garner, except Bundy owed the government more than a million bucks in grazing fees and not a few coins on single cigarettes. The Millers were anti-government nutzoids who thought cops were oppressors who were gonna git their guns or some such shit. They left a note on the scene saying they wanted to start a revolution.
You know what didn't happen after the shooting? Police associations didn't say that Las Vegas Mayor Carolyn Goodman had blood on her hands. The cops didn't condemn the armed numbskulls at Bundy ranch, who were, you know, protesters. And the Vegas police unions most definitely did not say they were now a "wartime" department, as the New York City PBA supposedly did.
5a. Imagine the shitstorm that'd happen if the cops said that violent white people were the problem and they needed to be stopped. It would have actually made sense. The Millers were directly connected with the Bundy ranch uprising. The guy who shot Liu and Ramos was a solo dickhead with a Facebook page.
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chervilant
(8,267 posts)that our species seems plumb ate up with the dumb ass.
(jic: this is what decades of co-opted public education, right-wing radio, and authoritarian propaganda has gotten us...)
ellenrr
(3,864 posts)and a history.
The RW Wurlitzer has done with this issue what it does with all of them. It has framed it in very simplistic terms - you are either with the cops or you are against them. It generates the "all or none" thinking that has dominated the discussion on the issue of police brutality. Its minions cannot deal with the complexities that lie within all the issues we face. This makes it easy for Republicans to adhere to less than factual positions.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)I would recommend reading Hofstadter's "The Paranoid Style in American Politics" and any of his other essays. Anti-intellectualism in American Life is his Pulitzer Prize winning book that's worth a read.
Roy Rolling
(6,921 posts)The choice is "you are either WITH ALL THE POLICE" or "you are WITH THE PROTESTERS of rogue police violence". You can't support protesters of police violence and still be favorable to all police officers. They are really saying ignore the bad apples, we are the authority here and will take care of it our own way---by ignoring it. They want their rogue cops, some feel they are above the law because they enforce the law.
That is the insidiousness of the dilemma.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)Decades of dog whistles have driven the mutt mad.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)It's the whirlwind being reaped from the last 35 years of sowing stupidity on a mass scale.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)the "savage ass" descriptor. It's perfect.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)I'm stealing it and will use it regularly.
DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)So a pair of whites killing a pair of coloreds doesn't register. Ever. #OnlyWhiteCopsMatter
mountain grammy
(26,626 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)as the local affiliate of Fox did...claiming a "mistake"?
Cha
(297,346 posts)"And maybe they'd not cut the pensions and benefits of retired cops like fake tough guy Chris Christie, who seeks to balance New Jersey's budget on the backs of the police and firefighters. In October, a retired police officer called into a radio show to talk to Christie. After brushing off the cop's attempt to criticize him, Christie jowled, "You're a guy that retired at 58 years old, with a full pension and free medical benefits for life, and you're coming on the air to complain...Pay your fair share." If President Obama said that, Fox "news" would cause riots.
What is hurting cops more? Mayor de Blasio saying that asshole cops should stop being assholes? Or Gov. Christie telling cops that their pensions might not be there in full when they retire?"
mahalo kpete
dissentient
(861 posts)JEB
(4,748 posts)eridani
(51,907 posts)What's gonna protect cops more? Locking up peaceful protesters? Or reducing the number of and access to guns?
For just one second, put yourself in an American cop's shoes. There are over 300 million firearms out there. When you see someone you want to arrest, you just assume that person has a gun. If you're an inexperience, poorly-trained, or just shitty cop, you're gonna mistake anything for a gun because you're expecting a gun. When someone reaches for a pocket, you expect a gun. Because that's America in the 21st century. This ain't to excuse cops who fuck up, but you can fuckin' well bet that cops in England don't automatically assume someone has a gun because it's England. Chances are that they don't. It's a different way of existing, being actually shocked by guns.
The NRA has caused more cop shootings than a nonstop parade of protests.
Conservatives don't actually give a fuck about cops as people, despite their moaning over the deaths of Officers Liu and Ramos. What they like is the authority and control the cops represent, the police force as a means of oppressing dissent (and, let's be honest, a lot of cops get off on the authority and control, too). If the right-wing did give a fuck, police would make a shit-ton more money, paid for by tax hikes, like Democratic Mayor Mitch Landrieu is attempting in New Orleans.
And maybe they'd not cut the pensions and benefits of retired cops like fake tough guy Chris Christie, who seeks to balance New Jersey's budget on the backs of the police and firefighters. In October, a retired police officer called into a radio show to talk to Christie. After brushing off the cop's attempt to criticize him, Christie jowled, "You're a guy that retired at 58 years old, with a full pension and free medical benefits for life, and you're coming on the air to complain...Pay your fair share." If President Obama said that, Fox "news" would cause riots.
What is hurting cops more? Mayor de Blasio saying that asshole cops should stop being assholes? Or Gov. Christie telling cops that their pensions might not be there in full when they retire? - See more at: http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/#sthash.I2LMoSz2.gKjMKdwv.dpuf