It is cruel to expect actual thinking from these people. Some might even show up in this thread

we'll be ready to alert

but I don't remember the first time.

(and I hope to see it dozens of more times in the coming years ... it's like cowbell)

I also liked the sequel (I know, everyone says it wasn't as good, but I laughed throughout)

Let's hear a police union rep acknowledge that.

All the fucker needs is a Southern accent to be perfect.

I would straight up say, "I care more about my son's life than about Herr Lynch's sick opinions."

I wish someone would ask him that.

(I know, Lynch would blame the victim.)

Have to wonder

He was a despicable human being

and "our" Pat Lynch is a pretty despicable person ... that over-the-top invective was really beyond the pale.

We know about Willlie Lynch in these parts. We also know Thomas Thistlewood. Martin Bashir was fired for suggesting that Lady Blah Blah Palin experience his treatment for slaves before chatting rubbish on the subject.

nt

Douglas Hall - you'll weep

have to go off for a while but I'll look into it

(had just done a Google search and found this ... "Thomas Thistlewood (16 March 1721 ‒ 30 November 1786) was a British citizen who migrated to western Jamaica where he became a plantation overseer and owner of land, property, and slaves. He is remembered for his diary, an important historical document chronicling the history of Jamaica and slavery during the 18th century." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Thistlewood)

I've been reading material online about him. It's Christmas Eve and all I can think about is the utter heinous suffering he inflicted on those poor souls. And that he recorded it all in a diary.

just horrible!

(I remember Bashir had left MSNBC over a remark about Palin but I didn't know the full story.)

but we often see some good people around this time of year and at other times

which may hold some clue as to why he's ratcheting up the rhetoric.

that's not a good sign

It was very widely known that Jerad Miller was a follower of Infowars. Fuck that bullshit.

He believes Obama creates hurricanes and tornadoes to prop up a FEMA conspiracy.

Are the result of Obama wanting to start a private army for the purpose of taking guns away. And he also thinks that Obama staged those mass shootings in Colorado and Connecticut.

Either he is legitimately mentally ill - which would fit his delusional claims - and in which case the real indictment is against the hate-driven pieces of shit who follow him.

Or he, like they, is just so full to the brim with hate that he just cannot stop himself from fabricating an entire alternate reality to justify the sheer intensity of his bigotry.

Miller espoused.

If you're white and "right" (wing) and you kill an officer, you are a lone wolf.

These things happen.

nt

1.Blacks
2.Black Leaders
3.Liberals
4.Protesters
5.Obama
6. Everything else organic or non-organic that serves a Republican purpose.

by stating that Trevon Martin could have looked like his own kid. Never did asshat Hannity talk about how he was blatantly inciting violence toward the Feds during the Bundy confrontation.
That fucking hypocrite isn't worth the piss to be peed on if he was on fire.

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could you post a link?

thanks

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to big dog:

to DonViejo:

The media are blaming "Black Lives Matter" -- a movement that embraces peaceful protest -- for the deaths of police officers, and have been totally overlooking these dangerous right-wing militant groups who truly have BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS.

So Mack "needs some backup." Bundy needed backup too. They all need backup.

Yeah, the article says he wants to "stage a political takeover", but if that fails, we know what he and his "backup" will resort to.

(We know what backup really means: violent anti-government insurrectionists.)

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"background checks on most gun purchases" ... they don't need no stinkin' background checks.

Oh, what the heck. It's Christmas ... a gun in every stocking!

yell false flag, as they always do when one of their own goes off the rails.

made no connection whatsoever. To do so would have caused massive heart attacks among their viewership.

Bob Roberts:

"Called into Klannity’s radio show yesterday. Told the screener I wanted to talk about the Las Vegas shooting. He told me Klannity’s wasn’t talking about it and hung up. That’s it, not talking about it and click.

Didn’t watch Faux last nite but can guarantee there was not one word of the Vegas shooting or the shooters' previous actions mentioned from 8-11. Guaranteed. Rachel covered it well from what i saw on her re-airing at midnight."

http://www.newshounds.us/20140609_fox_nation_ignores_las_vegas_shooting

fundie and racist terrorism.

Why is a mystery to me.

because they would have to look in the mirror

I think that it shows much more than hypocrisy. I believe that it in itself is evidence of the institutional bias that makes it acceptable for certain people (of color and liberal minded people in general) to be abused and all too often shot down by police. I believe that this is how the subject should be framed. Certain people have less rights than others, and the media's reporting on these issues is evidence of that.

supports your point:

Those who rightly expressed outrage over the murder of Eric Garner were regarded by the media in many cases as thugs, rabble-rousers, police haters (failing to see the protests were not anti-police but anti-police malfeasance.)

You don't find any such negative portrayals in the media of those who rightly express outrage over the murders of Officers Liu and Ramos.

edit: in fact, those who used inflammatory rhetoric -- like Pat "blood on the hands" Lynch -- have gotten a bye.

Your short post was perfection.

Yet we hear repeated from the media how the protests are "anti-police" when in fact people are simply demanding that citizens are not abused at the hands of the police. But the rhetoric from the media lets us know that in fact the very raising of our voices to demand justice makes us suspect.

I've seen this all happening for years now, it seems like slow motion. But sure enough we are now in a very scary and dark place. We must speak clearly and with conviction. It is not about some bad cops. It is institutional and pervasive. It is more than just the rancid police departments, it is embedded in our culture.

justice makes us suspect."

And the tragic deaths of officers Ramos and Liu are being exploited to demonize the movement. There's an attempt to shame the protesters and silence the fight for justice.

What those on the right don't understand is that one can condemn the murders of the officers, mourn their deaths, grieve for their families, and STILL protest police brutality.

honesty. One thing you always get, hypocrisy and lies. It's OK to kill bootjacketed thugs (police) if they are going against some gun nut who's stealing federal land. Cliven Bundy and RW militias aren't held accountable, even though they deliberately caused the whole thing. However, marchers, who had nothing whatsoever to do with the 2 cop killings, are held responsible for something that had nothing to do with them.

They have no shame, no caring or real sense of morality. They are despicable traitors, end of story.

Chances are most of you don't know about this because it was never really reported.

This was posted on Ultra Right Wing website Infowars by convicted felon, murderer and terrorist Jared Miller about 2 years before he and his girlfriend cowardly gunned down two police officers who were having pizza.

http://planet.infowars.com/offbeat/the-police-to-kill-or-not-to-kill



He was also interviewed on local media (0:40)

1. Jerad Miller shoots and kills two officers to avenge injustice, and the right-wing and the media call him a lone wolf.

2. Ismaaiyl Brinsley shoots and kills two officers to avenge injustice, and the right-wing and media blame liberalism, Mayor Bill de Blasio, President Obama, and the "Black Lives Matter" movement.

Explosive media coverage over the second; none over the first.

Got it!

Between pictures of the idiot son, the torturer in chief, and Hannity, I need a barf bag handy.

Peace

...."Bundy who?"

It's related to, "Bush who?"

I'd rather not.

I don't recall any outrage or explosive coverage

why would they go insane? ... he was one of their own

by Terrance Heath
December 23, 2014

On June 8, 2014, white, anti-government, tea party supporters shot and killed two Las Vegas police officers. Conservative media was conspicuously silent.

On Saturday, Ismaaiyl Brinsley shot and killed NYPD officers Wenjian Liu and Rafael Ramos as they sat in their patrol car, in the Brooklyn neighborhood of Bedford-Stuyvesant. Brinsley, who had made “very anti-police” statements on Instagram, was later found dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Police spokesmen and conservative media were quick to blame the murders on the widespread protests of police killings of unarmed black males such as Michael Brown, Eric Garner, John Crawford, Tamir Rice, and others.

-snip-

Never mind that President Obama called for anyone who protests these shootings and grand jury decisions to “do so peacefully.” Never mind that the president has said that there’s “no excuse” for violence. The irony of a black president is that his most innocuous utterances that America still has racial problems are interpreted by conservatives as radical and “anti-white. ”Never mind that a majority of cop killers have been white. Conservatives blame police killings of, and violence against blacks, on black lawlessness run amok. Never mind that the #BlackLivesMatter movement has condemned the murders of officers Liu and Ramos. Conservatives blame the movement collectively for the murder of officers Liu and Ramos.

This conservative penchant for collective blaming was absent on June 8, when Jerad and Amanda Miller — both white — shot and killed Las Vegas police officers Igor Soldo and Alyn Beck, as they had lunch at a strip mall. The couple dragged the officers’ bodies from their booth, draped Beck’s body with the yellow “Gasden flag” popular with the tea party movement, and pinned a note to Soldo’s body reading “This is the beginning of the revolution.” ...

Reports surfaced of Jerad Miller’s anti-government posts to Facebook, and Alex Jones “Infowars” message board — including a post titled, “The Police (to kill or not to kill).” The Millers camped out at Cliven Bundy’s ranch, where Bundy’s “militia” pointed guns at sheriff’s deputy’s and threatened to kill federal officers. Jerad Miller was even interviewed at the ranch, before being booted for his “radical” views.

Conservatives were less than outraged. Instead of blaming Cliven Bundy, Alex Jones, or the tea party movement, they tried to paint the Millers as radical leftists. Conservative media refused to call the Las Vegas shooting terrorism.

read more: http://www.commondreams.org/views/2014/12/23/conservative-media-and-cop-killers-different-color

No? Then these two cases are different. The only common core is that punk thug cowards killed police officers.

In the first case, a movement -- "Black Lives Matter" -- has been blamed for the killer's actions.

In the second case, no group was blamed for the killer's actions, despite the fact that the killer had been part of a group -- Cliven Bundy's Militia -- that had been threatening law enforcement.

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In the first case, protesters against police brutality, Mayor Bill de Blasio, President Obama, liberals are said to have "blood on their hands."

In the second case, it was a lone wolf; the far-right that actually incited the violent act was given a pass. No one said they had "blood on their hands" when in fact they did.

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In the first case, there has been outrage and explosive media coverage.

In the second case, there was silence for the most part.

An black male kills two officers, and groups and a movement he is no part of are to blame.

A white male kills two officers, and he's a lone wolf, despite the fact that his actions were incited by a group and movement to which he belonged.

Un-f'n-believable!

Somewhere in the background is the justification of white people feeling wronged: therefore of course someone declared a personal revolution and shot some cops. Guerrilla warfare is also righteous when used on behalf of white people feeling peeved: after all that's the way the Revolutionary War was fought. If a manifesto was involved, it will be treated as a holy document.

What's interesting is even other police are not invoking the loss of "their own" or "their brothers", like they are about the NY police. This is what makes their posturing over NY seem political rather than genuinely emotional.

Shouldn't someone be trying to make a citizen's arrest or calling the cops or doing something to stop the guy? I think just standing around taking pictures of an obvious assassination attempt makes them all accessories.

the response would have been.

Arrested? I doubt he would be alive.

KATIE HALPER
December 22, 2014

On Saturday, a lone mentally ill shooter, not from New York City and not part of the Black Lives Matter (BLM) protest movement, executed two NYPD police officers, before killing himself. In June of this year, a couple who had spent time on Clive Bundy’s ranch executed two Las Vegas police officers, wrapped their bodies in Don’t Tread on Me flags, and then shot themselves. Republicans, right wing media and police officials are blaming the NYPD murders on BLM. But why didn’t they blame the murders of the Las Vegas officers on the Tea Party movement?

Obviously, the way to honor the two police officers murdered on Saturday is by exploiting their tragic murder for political purposes in a way that actually defies logic. To do this, simply blame the actions of a single lone shooter with a history of mental illness and suicide attempts on a non-violent protest movement which outrageously demands that police not kill people for the crime of being Black. Also claim that Mayor Bill de Blasio, Attorney General Eric Holder and President Barack Obama are to blame but don’t bother pretending that there is any evidence for that claim because you won’t find it. But if you’re Ray Kelly, Rudy Giuliani, Patrick Lynch, George Pataki or Fox News, that’s no big deal anyway.

When Jerad and Amanda Miller shot Las Vegas police officers Alyn Beck and Igor Soldo execution style as the two men ate pizza, the Millers said the killing was the start of the revolution and they wrapped the bodies of their victims in the “Don’t tread on me,” flag that has come to symbolize the Tea Party Movement. The couple also Facebook-liked Operation American Spring, Alliance Defending Freedom, the National Rifle Association, The Heritage Foundation, Rand Paul 2016, Three Percenter Nation, Ron Paul, and Drudge Report. In the case of last week’s horrendous NYC police killings (1) the killer wasn’t from New York or part of the BLM movement, (2) the killer also attempted to kill his girlfriend, who was not a police officer, (3) Barack Obama, Bill de Blasio, the family of Michael Brown and the family of Eric Garner condemned the murders of NYPD officers Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu. So, where were the officials tracing back this ideological murder to these organizations and sites? Surely Giuliani, Lynch, Pataki and Fox News would have to agree that the alleged causal connection between deBlasio, Obama, Holder, BLM and the NYPD deaths pales in comparison to The Tea Party movement and the Las Vegas deaths. This is especially true given that the organizers of BLM are explicitly non-violent while many of the organizations involved with the Tea Party and much of the Tea Party movement embraces violence.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/if-black-lives-matter-killed-nypd-officers-tea-party-killed-las-vegas-police/

Sorry I missed it!

it's really sickening to see all these right-wing demagogues rage about the killings of the NY officers by an African-American male when they were SILENT back in June about the killings of Las Vegas officers by a white male who was a member of Cliven Bundy's milita.

their collective ass.

let's hope for more enlightenment and peace in the new year

Sad to say, but true.

it's on the rise!

both of these cases -- in NY and Las Vegas -- were horrific tragedies

we must never lose sight of that

for the officers and their families, especially during this time of the year when families gather to celebrate the holidays ...

[font size="3"]Fox News' Double Standard For Right-Wing Cop Killers[/font]

December 22, 2014
ERIC BOEHLERT

The politicization surrounding the killing of two New York Police Department officers over the weekend was amazingly swift. Fox News led the right-wing media charge, immediately claiming Democratic elected officials were somehow responsible for the gun rampage, which began in Baltimore when Ismaaiyl Brinsley allegedly shot his ex-girlfriend, and extended to Brooklyn when the mentally troubled shooter assassinated two police officers, before killing himself on a city subway platform.

On Fox, hosts and guests were sure who was to blame for the tragedy; not the gunman necessarily, but political and community leaders like President Obama, Attorney General Eric Holder, Mayor Bill de Blasio and MSNBC's Al Sharpton. Why? Because the men, to varying degrees, have spoken out about the troubled relationship between law enforcement and the black community, and raised concerns about two recent high-profile cases, Michael Brown and Eric Garner, in which unarmed black men were killed, and police officers responsible were not indicted.

Against that backdrop of civil protest, former New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik told Fox News, "I personally feel that Mayor de Blasio, Sharpton and others like them, they actually have blood on their hands."

"Let's talk about the president as well," responded Fox's Jeanine Pirro, suggesting Obama and Mayor de Blasio were to blame. "The two of them have undoubtedly created racial tensions that worsens, not betters the situation for law enforcement."

Appearing on Fox News, former New York City Mayor Rudolf Giuliani insisted the message from recent Obama "propaganda" was that "everybody should hate the cops." (No such Obama "propaganda" actually exists.)

read more: http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/12/22/fox-news-double-standard-for-right-wing-cop-kil/201978


the article above goes on to look at how when right-wing nut Jerad Miller killed two cops in Vegas earlier in the year, FOX looked the other way and called Miller a lone-wolf, ignoring Miller's ties to violent far-right groups (like the Bundy militia that was threatening law enforcement).

The article concludes: "Once again, Fox paid little attention to those right-wing executions of law enforcement officers."

LIED about what the "Black Lives Matter" protesters were demonstrating against (and then attributed the deaths of the NY officers to their demonstrations) ...





see http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026009730 posted by kpete