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I'm sure our oligarchs would never allow our democracy to be undermined.
http://coreyrobin.com/2014/12/22/a-weimar-y-vibe/
A Weimar-y Vibe
Corey Robin
December 22, 2014
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On Saturday, a gunman shot and killed two police officers at close range in the Bedford Stuyvesant section of Brooklyn.
The murders come on the heels of weeks of protest in New York (and elsewhere) against the rampant lawlessness and brutality of the police.
Instantly, the police and their defenders moved into high gear, blaming the murders on the protesters; NYC Mayor Bill De Blasio, who had been gesturing toward the need for police reform; and US Attorney General Eric Holder. Many have called for the mayors resignation.
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I had heard that that statement was not in fact from the PBA, but now I cant find anything definitive about it. In any event, it gives you a flavor of what Greg Grandin is calling a cop coup in New York. Its a strong term, but its hard not to conclude that the mayor believes his first duty is not to the security and well-being of the people of New York but to the security and well-being of the NYPD. Because the fate of his administration is in their hands.
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The entire New York City establishmentnot just De Blasio, but political, cultural, and economic elitesis terrified (or in support) of the cops. With the exception of this fairly cautious statement from Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams, himself a former police captain, not one of these figures has spoken out against the Freikorps-ish rhetoric emanating from the NYPD. Its not that these men and women are spineless or gutless in a psychological or personal sense. Its worse: Theyre politically frightened, which is far more dangerous. Because they have no sense of an alternative base or source of power. After decades of being whipsawed by capitalyou could trace this rot all the way back to 1975, if not even furthertheyre simply not prepared to take on the police. Even if they wanted to.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Karmadillo
(9,253 posts)Hard to imagine a US politician doing this.
https://www.thenation.com/blog/193457/how-survive-cop-coup-what-bill-de-blasio-can-learn-ecuador
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But de Blasio has a model other than Dinkins he could follow. In late 2010, Ecuadors president faced down a cop revolt and won, emerging even stronger and more popular.
Nominally the police protest was about pay and grades, but it was led by cops with ties to a right-wing opposition party. Cops poured into Quitos streets, taking over the National Assembly building. Similar police protests spread to other cities, with police supporters blocking roads and shutting the country down leading Rafael Correa to declare a state of emergency.
Correa was the opposite of conciliatory: he headed straight to Quitos main police barracks. And just like the NY cops who turned their back on de Blasio last night, the cops in Quito engaged in symbolic action meant to delegitimize Correa. The president then launched a confrontational speech: he loosened his tie, opened his shirt, repeatedly pointing to his chest and saying: You want to kill the president, here he is. Kill me, if you want to. Kill me if you are brave enough! (a good example of how politics, in Latin America, is still Jacobin, unmediated and taking place in the public square). Tear gas was fired, with the canisters nearly hitting Correa and his wife, who had to retreat to a nearby hospital.
Finance and resource-extraction capital were quick to try to leverage the crisis, with financial experts blaming the unrest on Correas rejection of the logic of austerity. The [government] finally realizes that maybe their current spending could not continue, said a portfolio manager at Federated Investors. Correa had already defaulted on billions of dollars in bond debt passed on to him from his predecessors. Illegitimate, Correa called that debt. And Ecuador was at that moment also negotiating higher taxes on foreign oil companies.
The cop coup almost worked. A number of traditional left parties had by that point become alienated from Correa over a number of issues, and the urban middle class was almost buying the argument, pushed by oligarch-controlled media, that Correa was authoritarian and a dictator. But the presidents defiant stand gave his supporters time to organize counter-demonstrations. Most of the army, which extracted Correa from the cop-besieged hospital, stayed loyal. And Brazil, Venezuela, Argentina and the rest of South America made it clear they wouldnt tolerate Correas ouster. Eight people were killed and nearly 300 wounded in the police riot.
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appal_jack
(3,813 posts)bemildred
(90,061 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)But you have to remember, that his people remember what a police state looks like and do not wish to return to that.
He is one of the most popular leaders in Latin America and rightly so.
That whole police coup attempt would have scared any of our politicians out of their wits. However, the American people are not as opposed to a police state as the people of Ecuador are at this point.
Karmadillo
(9,253 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)http://gothamist.com/2007/11/13/this_time_the_p.php
When the PBA went after Dinkins (!):
At 10:50 A.M., a few demonstrators chanting "Take the hall! Take the hall!" flooded over the barriers and into the parking lot in front of City Hall, meeting no resistance from the police on guard. Cheering and screaming, thousands of others poured through from every side of the park and seethed up the hall steps. Some mounted automobiles and began a raucous demonstration, denting the cars.
While the rowdier demonstrators refused to leave the City Hall area, most of the group crowded onto Murray Street between Church Street and Broadway, where they listened to sharply worded speeches from Mr. Caruso, Mr. Giuliani and, finally, Michael O'Keefe, the officer who was cleared by a grand jury recently in the shooting death of a Dominican man in Washington Heights. Many officers flooded the bars along Murray Street and drank openly on the street during the speeches. Bridge Blocked
At 11:40 A.M., several thousand of the officers in front of City Hall marched onto the Brooklyn Bridge, again meeting no resistance, while others joined the rally on Murray Street. Ten minutes later, the bridge was blocked in both directions with more than 2,000 officers milling on both roadways. They blocked traffic until about 12:20, when the crowd began to dissipate.
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/09/17/nyregion/officers-rally-and-dinkins-is-their-target.html
De Blasio is well aware of this.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)so I'm surprised that they would have criticized him at all, they loved HIM.
What they did to Dinkens however was unconscionable.
So yes, they do have a lot of power, but I'm skeptical about the Giuliani comment, it doesn't fit with his love for the NYPD.
Giuliani was a corrupt, weak, incompetent moron. I could not believe when I saw the country giving him credit for anything re 9/11. He had been claiming there was 'no threat to this city' for years, when he was warned that a threat might be imminent.
Just like Bush, he ignored all warnings about an attack.
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)An earlier clash with Rudy "911" Giuliani:
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/irate-pba-give-rudy-blues-article-1.727198
The other quote is from a PBA statement released by Patrick Lynch in 2007 (during Rudy's exploration of a 2008 prez run) here:
http://gothamist.com/2007/11/13/this_time_the_p.php
There was also a campaign in 1997 to exclude Giuliani from police funerals.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/12/22/new_york_police_union_past_mayors_attacks_on_all_parties.html
de Blasio is like a hostage now. They can make him say whatever they want.