Send in Zoe Saldana instead.

He is just throwing out red meat to his stupid audience who do not get it.

ps Rush: its fiction darling, make believe, like the bible.

Pierce Brosnan was white and Irish.

So it was ok for THEM to play James Bond?

I'd say give Idris a shot at it. What the hell.

Fleming died in 1964 - somehow the movie franchise has carried on since then, not all of the films precisely based on his original Bond novels.

My understanding of the ouvre is that the "007" designation was not necessarily confined to a particular individual, but to the paticular role the individual played within the spy organization. And "James Bond" was simply a nom de guerre.

There's absolutely no reason that I can see why there couldn't be a "James Bond" of any ethnic background. It's a name that describes a function, not the name of a specific individual.

designation could be passed on, if the current holder died.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond#Creation_and_inspiration

on a tee-shirt. In a running scene. With bulging biceps.



Without the bottle of Oxy, though, we get the joke.

Hmm, does Bond only wear suits and tuxes and swim trunks? Ah, no...

And Fleming, who (let's not forget) wrote the incredibly terrible The Spy Who Loved Me, is no more an expert on what makes the character work than Lucas knows what's best for the Star Wars universe.

Does it make less sense to suppose that a series of agents have had the code name "James Bond" than to imagine that the same freaked-out guy who beat the shit out of a spider is the same fearless agent who piloted a space shuttle back from orbit?

If it preserves the best of the character, then it's best for the character. Fleming doesn't get the final say.

Othello would be fine with you? A Black Madame Butterfly? An Asian Bigger Thomas? (I'm talking minus make-up to approach the original's depiction.)

Okay, then.

Is Bond's whiteness essential to his story in the same way that Othello's blackness is essential to his story?
No? Okay then. What was your nominal point again?

Authorship of a book absolutely doesn't place the author above reproach. Again I refer to Lucas, who in the entire galaxy may be the person least qualified to determine what works in the Star Wars story.

Similarly, Thomas Harris utterly lost control of his characters in the execrable Hannibal, such that the film adaptation made the wise choice of rejecting Harris' ending.

Any number of characters have been handled better by subsequent writers than by their creators. How can you possibly insist otherwise?

might be able to infiltrate the places he is supposed to go more easily and readily than a Black man. Like, maybe the links in "Goldfinger." Or the casino in "Casino Royale." He might also have a bit more trouble with the make-up disguise in the Bond set in Japan, "You Only Live Twice."

Your FACT that some authors have "lost control" of their characters to movie producers is simply a statement of "That's the way it goes, Sister. Too bad if you don't like it."

"Any number of characters have been handled better by subsequent writers than by their creators. How can you possibly insist otherwise?" I'm not sure I can wholly agree, without examples. I've READ the "new" Bonds and Poirots; I would disagree that those were "handled better" than by the original authors.

Perhaps I have a deficient "willing suspension of disbelief."

No? Then your objection is an irrelevant anachronism.

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I couldn't care less, though I have read professional critics who took the movie to task for its changing an orphanage to a foster home, with concomitant lousy song lyrics.

White Othello with an all-black supporting cast. It was awesome. IIRC I saw it twenty years ago at the Dallas Shakespeare festival, or maybe in LA.

Of all the many, many qualities the character of James Bond has, the amount of melanin is probably the least important.

Shakespeare play (so long ago I've forgotten which one, but a comedy). I didn't care for it.

Then again, I saw Patrick Stewart in a "Macbeth" set in a surgical operating room, and thought it was brilliant.

a few of the movies. One shows Bond's parents names, for instance.

is Julian Bond's brother!

Rush, you need to relax dude. Calm down. Maybe take in a nice movie to help you forget your troubles. Maybe you should go see the new Annie movie. Republicans love orphans!

Elba is not being considered for Prince Charles or Churchill that I am aware of, the Clooney as Obama is far from apples to apples. Hell, it isn't even apples to oranges.

He damn sure couldn't be James Bond with his ugly ass

Wish I could find it.

There were some good suggestions, IIRC.

And if no white actor ever played Othello who is specifically described as a Moor, he might have a point, but being Rush Limbaugh he doesn't.

...Will Felix Leiter go back to being white?

Semitic, you know, over "authenticity"?

See a diff?




Pls nobody start a debate on that, here. Winky's confused enough...

In all of western history there is probably no character more fictionalized than Jesus Christ.

If we're talking about the man on whom the pop-culture sensation has been based for the past 20 centuries or so, then you're correct. But if we're talking about the Jesus protrayed in the bible (and in the convenienly omitted Apocrypha, etc.) then we are most certainly talking about a fictional character.

I do. Even if he'd been a decent actor, I'd still think he was a ridiculous cast. Because Ghengis Khan is a real historical figure, and it's not like there weren't already a ton of roles for white men and few for asian men.

James Bond is a fictional character. When books make the journey to the screen, I expect lots of little changes for practical and stylistic reasons, since film is a collaborative medium.

Or a Hutu in 'Sometimes in April'?

After a couple of minutes of watching him as James Bond, race will be forgotten. Limbaugh, on the other hand, is best suited to the role of overflowing garbage bag in my garage.

Yeah. Same thing here.

Q (ahem M - see above) was written as a man.

Judy Dench elevated it to greatness,

Shut. The. Fuck. Up. Haters.

company called The African Company was actually jailed and prevented from performing Shakespeare because they were competing with the big shot white Shakespeare and other theater.
That was in the 1820's, the all African American Macbeth was a big hit for the Federal Theater Project in 1936 and we have Rush, in the current times, still not getting how it all works.
It makes me nuts because Elba is insanely good casting for Bond and I was gratified to see Sony execs thinking in that way, it shows the only spark of skill I've seen out of them since the whole hacking debacle started up.

since Barry Nelson was the first to play him on TV.

Fuck Pigman.

His racism is taking over