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(47,531 posts)
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 12:53 PM Dec 2014

Local (Twin Cities) builders worry about shortage of workers

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A downtown commercial building boom, recession-era exodus from the building trades and the retirements of thousands of skilled baby boomers are leaving construction crews short of labor. And the shortage is starting to push building costs upward as contractors struggle to maintain a skilled workforce. General contractors are paying more per square foot than they did three years ago, as they compete for material and work to meet what they see as the increasingly high price of building regulations. Labor becomes yet another factor steadily driving up cost.

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Just as the skyline in downtown Minneapolis is crowded with cranes, sites on Lake Street, Washington Avenue and Portland Avenue are crowded with workers in hard hats. The city’s building boom is driving an emerging labor shortage felt by contractors around the Twin Cities. Industry leaders worry that a thin supply of certain types of construction workers is a looming problem.

Contractors in the state believe carpenters, equipment operators and laborers are becoming especially difficult to hire, according to a November survey from the Associated General Contractors of Minnesota. Masons and truck drivers are also difficult to find.

Before the housing market imploded, construction employed 132,000 Minnesotans. That number fell to 86,000 in 2010 as construction laborers left their professions for work in other industries or took early retirement.

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http://www.startribune.com/business/286815241.html

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Local (Twin Cities) builders worry about shortage of workers (Original Post) question everything Dec 2014 OP
A ready and willing workforce might be on the way in the form of laid off oil workers Brother Buzz Dec 2014 #1
give training and pay good wages, you'll find workers irisblue Dec 2014 #2
This is how the story starts question everything Dec 2014 #3
uh, sure. NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #6
This article is poorly written. Commercial construction -- which in the Cities is generally union Brickbat Dec 2014 #4
Small business cannot offer union benefits question everything Dec 2014 #7
They can and do, actually. Brickbat Dec 2014 #8
When we had the big melt down in 79-81 time frame Wellstone ruled Dec 2014 #5

Brother Buzz

(36,461 posts)
1. A ready and willing workforce might be on the way in the form of laid off oil workers
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 01:05 PM
Dec 2014

The pending Bakken shale oil bust west of Minneapolis is going to set a lot of skilled people loose.

question everything

(47,531 posts)
3. This is how the story starts
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 01:23 PM
Dec 2014

An owner of a construction company ecently hired four entry-level carpenters. He agreed to the wages they asked for — about $14 per hour — plus health insurance, and he was willing to train them.

But when it came time for work, they didn’t show up.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
4. This article is poorly written. Commercial construction -- which in the Cities is generally union
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 01:33 PM
Dec 2014

and so pays quite well -- is doing great. Residential carpentry, which is what this boo-hoo guy is in:

“We’re always defending against the commercial work,” Gertjejansen said. “Right now, I think they’re winning.”


...is having trouble finding workers because a lot of these guys went where the money is -- North Dakota oil fields. "Defending against commercial work" means battling to get skilled employees. Commercial construction pays. When residential pays, they won't have trouble finding guys.

question everything

(47,531 posts)
7. Small business cannot offer union benefits
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 08:52 PM
Dec 2014

and, I don't think that unions even consider small business.

Speaking of small business:

Several weeks ago I was listening to a presentation promoting local business. And Saturday after "Black Friday" was promoted as "buying local." In the 12 years that we've lived in this town we purchased merchandise - major - from three local businesses that eventually went out of business. One of the merchandise malfunctioned. I am sure that it could have been easily fixed, but we could not find any other place that would even look at it, even though many were selling a similar product. Would not even come to collect it in exchange for a new one.

As I was reading this story I was thinking of a small remodeling company that we've patronizing many times and I was hoping that they can still find workers. We recently got a Holiday card from them, so I hope that all is well..

Just as aside..

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
8. They can and do, actually.
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 09:22 PM
Dec 2014

If a guy's running a margin so close he can only offer $14/hour for skilled trades, he's going to be in trouble awfully quickly.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. When we had the big melt down in 79-81 time frame
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 03:01 PM
Dec 2014

the Local Home Builders went nuts over all those over paid Union Tradesmen and off it went from there. Anyone whom lived or worked the Twin City Market area,well remembers what Dunwoody Institute contributed to the local training and skill set building we had. Seen first hand how the politics of and around residential non Union Contractors and Real Estate Sales people worked the system to gain and expand their business model. Twin Cities was for the most part solid Union Contractors,when Arnie Carlson became Governor,all bets were off. Fly by night Contractors came in like fly's on cow pies. The running joke was if you had a pickup truck and a hammer you could call yourself a Contractor. The License process became a joke. No insurance or bonds required,and it showed in the quality of the finished product. We would receive appraisal orders on some of this junk,and making long story short,the buyers would just be livid when we presented the final product as to what we would discover in the appraisal work product.

The real kicker was the change in Unemployment Insurance coverage in Minnesota. Many Tradesmen would be on laid off during down turns or weather related issues,but,you were eligible for fifty two weeks of compensation provided you worked the required work weeks prior to layoff. Never had to worry about were your next meal was coming from. Plus there was a ready able and qualified work force to jump in and get the jobs done. Remember this story is coming out of the Glenn Taylor owned Star and Tribune. Any newspaper that employs the Rethug Party cast offs has to be questioned.

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