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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThat guy Antonio Martin, did he have any police record?
Not making accusations, just wondering.
Because many times those who point a gun at cops have long prison records.
tammywammy
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In the first case, the victim said Martin and another man had punched him. A teacher at the school where the assault took place in the 4300 block of Goodfellow Boulevard told police she saw the two men attack the victim on Sept. 24, according to court records.
Martin was charged Oct. 8 with third-degree assault for that case.
On Oct. 20, a woman told police that Martin had stolen her purse in the 4600 block of Gravois Avenue. The circuit attorney charged Martin with misdemeanor stealing on Oct. 21.
He pleaded guilty to both charges on Nov. 4; St. Louis Circuit Judge Theresa Counts Burke sentenced him to 30 days in jail.
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http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/parents-of-antonio-martin-say-his-fatal-shooting-doesn-t/article_fdcc9659-905c-5472-b5dd-66f5d36c6fba.html
JEFF9K
(1,935 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)Any history of intimidation, harassment, or violence toward suspects or other members of the public? Not making accusations, just wondering. Because many times crooked cops will plant evidence to justify or cover-up their criminal actions.
Sauce for the goose...
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)arent suppose to, never.
So dont you bother yourself with any details, we have a video from such a long distance away it is impossible to tell what actually happened, but the cop says what he says and that is ALL you need to know.
Dont you be asking any questions, and one thing is for certain, if the victim had a police record, he was guilty and deserved to die, no matter what.
And remember, all police records are exactly what they appear to be, this country has no history of writing and enforcing laws that impact one community much worse than another, absolutely not.
This country doesnt have a history of imprisoning people they dont want voting, nuh uh...
WAIT, the cop who shot and killed this last black guy, was white, right?
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)won in both Iraq and Afghanistan had they been deployed there under Petraeus and Sanchez (instead of losing in both theaters rather ignominiously, as we did with our volunteer-mercenary forces).
Perhaps President Obama should conscript and deploy the St. Louis County PD en masse to Iraq forthwith to give battle to ISIS. ISIS won't stand a chance against those boys in blue. Put McCulloch, Whirley and Alizadeh in charge of the JAG Corps over there while he's at it.
It's a two-fer: fewer blacks, poor and people of color being killed in St. Louis County for the crime of being black and\or poor and more ISIS being killed by our dead-eye shots in the St. Louis County PD.
(in case it's needed)
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)and the rest had not acted like crybaby pussy asshole chickenshit chickenhawks and actually served in Nam
Given their character and abilities, they would ALL certainly have been killed either by the enemy or their own men.
And we wouldnt have to put up with the horror they have impaled onto the human race
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)have been my prime nominee for some NVA "re-education" at the Hanoi Hilton.
Again, (in case it's still needed)
pintobean
(18,101 posts)shot and killed anyone? Recent news stories have Ferguson, St.Louis Metropolitan (city), and Berkeley PD officers killing suspects, but I don't recall St. Louis County PD doing it.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)St. Louis County (like Ferguson and Berkeley) and not the St. Louis County PD itself.
So please allow me to edit my initial post in this subthread here to say that President Obama should conscript and deploy the combined police forces of Ferguson, Berkeley and (probably) Crestwood against ISIS. Victory is sure to be ours!
Are McCulloch, Whirley and Alizadeh still eligible for JAG Corps duty over there?
pintobean
(18,101 posts)I know two of the cops there. Have they been killing young black men, too? I've never heard of that happening.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)approach to policing minority and poor communities. And they're probably great shots, just like Wilson was.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)so you and I probably share his approach to policing minority communities.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)deployed to Iraq as MPs to police the rebrobates from the Ferguson and Berkeley police forces who, when not killing ISIS in single-handed feats of legerdemain unknown previously to man, will be up to mischief.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)The press conference yesterday.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)That video?
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)careers of abusive police and perhaps worse they REVEAL POLICE METHODs and officer identity.
Of course we'll never know because said law enforcement officer wasn't wearing his assigned camera.
These conspiracy theories are worse than the "9/11 truthers."
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Who's pushing conspiracy theories here?
Good luck sir
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)he's 34, white and (I think I read) a six-year veteran of the police force.
Who is the killer cop?
Archae
(46,345 posts)I used to know a cop (he retired and died years ago,) who never shot anyone.
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NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)Anybody else notice that within MINUTES of this shooting, the american people were being told by the media and police that it was a righteous shooting and the victim pointed a gun at the cop?
Since we now know that probably isnt at all what happened, how many other times, how many times out of the hundreds of thousands of times we are told that, is it actually true?
Not just shootings, but everything.
Hmmm...kind of convenient how we have so many of "those folks" locked away, aint it
bigtree
(86,005 posts)_Blue_
(106 posts)Since what he draws from his waistband and points to the cop is obstructed by his body?
The other video shows him drawing and pointing a dark object at the officer. A 9mm hi-point handgun was recovered as evidence. He has a history of armed criminal action and armed robbery.
Anyone making this out to be something other than an armed, violent, dangerous criminal being rightfully (albeit tragically) killed is doing a disservice to legitimate victims of police misconduct like Garner and Grant.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)convenient, that.
_Blue_
(106 posts)Someone may have been able to trace it back to where Martin acquired it -- he's inder 21 and a felon, obviously he didn't obtain it legally.
Luckily the FBI lab has some great tools for recovering ground down serial numbers so eventually we may have that information.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)then it can be traced.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)little point in trading barbs or shouting slogans at one another.
But, when you have the time, you might want to review the history of the LAPD's Ramparts Division scandal:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rampart_scandal (Emphasis Added)
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)I'm just telling you that the gun will be sent to the FBI's crime lab where they'll recover the serial number and then be able to trace it.
I know all about the LAPD's Rampart Divisions criminal activity.
_Blue_
(106 posts)KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)or does not hear, even if McCulloch knows the witness is perjuring him- or herself, McCulloch decides all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rampart_scandal (Emphasis added)
Historic NY
(37,453 posts)the Mayors Committee against gun violence recommended in 2009 that a second number be hidden on the guns....with the large amount of guns nopw being traded the per centage is probably higher.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)Historic NY
(37,453 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)at the officer.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)about a block from where the Bosnian guy was beaten to death with a hammer. Not that that means anything, it's just an interesting coincidence.
Antonio D Martin pleaded guilty twice, for lesser crimes. One plea involved a crime he committed just four days after his 17th birthday, a misdemeanor assault. The report says Martin and another person attacked someone in front of a Job Corp teacher. Less than a month later, the 17 year the admitted he stole from a woman eating outside of Mariachi's II restaurant on Gravois. Martin spent a total of 30 days in jail for both crimes.
Fredy Guijosa, of Mariachi`s, remembers seeing Martin and another man walk into the restaurant, then leave and walk around outside. Guijosa said the two guys ran off with a purse from one of his customers eating outside. Guijosa and his brother ran after them. He said they chased them for blocks, caught them, and held them until police arrived.
Guijosa said, 'We didn't hit them or nothing like that, but he kept yelling, 'I'm young. I'm young' because, I mean, I'm pretty sure he saw how upset I was and from there, we just held them down 'till the cops came and they took care of the rest.'
helpmetohelpyou
(589 posts)The records in this thread are just when he turned 18
I don't think they have released or will release his juvenile record .
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)n/t