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UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 07:52 AM Dec 2014

Welfare drug testing pilot program signed into law by Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder

LANSING, MI — Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder on Friday signed a new law creating a one-year pilot program requiring the Department of Human Services to screen some welfare recipients and test those suspected of drug use.

The program, to be launched by DHS in three or more counties by October 2015, would apply to residents enrolled in or applying for the Family Independence Program.

A recipient who was suspected of drug use and failed an initial test would be referred to a treatment program. Failing a second test, or refusing to take one at all, would result in the termination of benefits.

“We want to remove the barriers that are keeping people from getting good jobs, supporting their families and living independently,” Snyder said in a statement announcing he had signed Senate Bill 275 and House Bill 4118.


http://www.mlive.com/lansing-news/index.ssf/2014/12/welfare_drug_testing_pilot_pro_1.html

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Welfare drug testing pilot program signed into law by Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder (Original Post) UglyGreed Dec 2014 OP
Too bad we can't test Snyder. hobbit709 Dec 2014 #1
Yep I agree N/T UglyGreed Dec 2014 #3
Someone needs to look into Rick Snyder's investments. B Calm Dec 2014 #2
Wouldn't that be UglyGreed Dec 2014 #5
Too bad we can't test Congress and Wall Street CEO who get huge bonuses. nt kelliekat44 Dec 2014 #4
Already been tried and proven to be a failure. Live and Learn Dec 2014 #6
Just what "good jobs" does Michigan have? JDDavis Dec 2014 #7
It's your typical rich guy world view evirus Dec 2014 #8
Been tried - doesn't work quaker bill Dec 2014 #9
Apparently the people of Michigan want their tax dollars... 99Forever Dec 2014 #10
Asinine vive la commune Dec 2014 #11
must have been an xmas sale on brown shirts dembotoz Dec 2014 #12
hurts children and will cost the state billions in 'treatment programs' & when they take the kids... Sunlei Dec 2014 #13
K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2014 #14
Snyder and "our" knuckle dragging right wing legislature are A$$-hats etherealtruth Dec 2014 #15
This from the “fiscal conservatives” who decry wasted spending, but then pour money down the toilet NYC Liberal Dec 2014 #16

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
5. Wouldn't that be
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 08:00 AM
Dec 2014

be strange if he or others he is associated with have some sort of ties with a testing facility????

 

JDDavis

(725 posts)
7. Just what "good jobs" does Michigan have?
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 08:39 AM
Dec 2014

“We want to remove the barriers that are keeping people from getting good jobs, supporting their families and living independently,” Snyder said

Ah, yeah!

evirus

(852 posts)
8. It's your typical rich guy world view
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:05 AM
Dec 2014

Assuming that their luck was actually hard work that anyone can do

quaker bill

(8,224 posts)
9. Been tried - doesn't work
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:39 AM
Dec 2014

In FL the program was universal, meaning all applicants were tested. It is currently shut down as an unconstitutional search, pending appeals. They are attempting to skirt the constitution by requiring testing only for those "suspected" here.

However, in FL the plan ran about a year until a lawsuit matured and the program was found to be an unconstitutional search.

Bottom line, of all applicants less that 2% were found to test positive. The cost of the testing vastly exceeded the "savings" from denied benefits.

The program was a farce.

If you actually work with the very poor and homeless, you will find that many have substance abuse problems, but if you are actually paying attention, you will also find virtually none of these folks receive government benefits of any type, most panhandle or do day labor. Most of these folks could not even produce ID to apply for benefits. Drug addicts do not apply for government benefits, they tend to stay away from government offices because drug use is "criminal behavior" and they prefer not getting arrested.

It is a right wing fantasy that those receiving government checks are drug addicts, or "failures" in some other easily dismissed way. It is actually more likely that most receiving benefits are clean and sober, working, and go to church regularly

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
10. Apparently the people of Michigan want their tax dollars...
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:44 AM
Dec 2014

.. wasted on this kind of shit. They keep electing these draconian assholes.

vive la commune

(94 posts)
11. Asinine
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:45 AM
Dec 2014

And a big waste of money, as well. But I guess money is no object when it comes to punishing poor people...

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
13. hurts children and will cost the state billions in 'treatment programs' & when they take the kids...
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 10:05 AM
Dec 2014

Bet 'for profit' treatment programs and any 'for profits' who keep kids love this law. No wonder states cry they are broke.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
15. Snyder and "our" knuckle dragging right wing legislature are A$$-hats
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 07:48 PM
Dec 2014

This has been shown to have no benefit and is costly.

wonder which right wing knuckle dragger owns a "drug" testing lab.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
16. This from the “fiscal conservatives” who decry wasted spending, but then pour money down the toilet
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:19 PM
Dec 2014

for crap like this. The cost of testing and running the whole operation will likely exceed any savings gotten from finding the few drug users who collect benefits. And then there’s the cost of the inevitable lawsuit that will shut it all down.

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