Hundreds more blacks killed than whites by police. Nice way to derail the convo.

he started his own thread.

It is by a Native American who cannot understand why no one cares about THEM.

So back atcha: nice way to avoid the point.

a day or two ago.

I have to admit I did not know all of this.

It was an interesting (and sad) read.

But, you're right, I'm not toeing the line lol. I know which way the DU winds blow.

I always just adjust my sails. (quote from a favorite person)

that police are seen to be right everytime

WE CARE about them

you can god damn believe that

And if we could address the fact that police are killing many people of many colors or races or whatever, that police are out of control, they lie, they commit crimes, etc

We could admit that people from all walks are being targeted and killed

But some will use this info to derail what you would talk about, true

It is easy to figure out who they are

Just be aware that there are other victims of the police.

I'm just tired of the race baiting here. We're all on the same side (or so I believe).

I found this article startling.

How is it bothersome to you?

Unfortunately, some have chosen to make it only about cops v blacks when the truth is entirely different. I have posted that over and over, even listing some of the more recent murders, including John Williams, Native American wood carving artist.

Making this only about race, imo, deflects from the police state issue.

Because it seems many here can only see black and white.

Literally.

And a lot of the ingrained prejudices in the US are specifically black - not native American or any other race.

The reason black protesters have insisted on #blacklivesmatter is to keep us aware that there are special problems that black people face that they want on the table, at this minute, while it's hot and there's a chance to get something done.

#Alllivesmatter is true, but it would just swamp the issue. This is the same problem feminists have when people start proclaiming themselves #humanists and assuming hipster-savvy poses about it. Of course we are all aspiring to a world of gender equality, but right now women have special problems that we still need to call particular attention to, such as genital mutilation, honor killings, lack of resources for rape treatment in the military, etc. Being a Feminist means you have decided that some issues, categorically, need priority attention - and by adding the -ist to your own identity you dedicate yourself to that cause.

Bringing justice and equality to native americans is just as valid as all of the above. They are part of the broader Civil Rights and Social Justice movements - but we all have to admit that nothing much gets done under those diffuse topics. So the native americans must be native americanists, and when the time is right, they should cry #nativeamericanlivesmatter!

info to make a point while not giving two shits about dead Native Americans

Not saying you, i dont know you,but some are here for that reason i think

Were 236 white people to 128 black people killed by police nationwide that year. Those white numbers include Hispanics though.

that will not fit the DU agenda either.

We need to realize that police violence is not against one race. It is based on economic class.

Face it. OJ in the slow-mo police chase? Come on...in LA? He'd have been shot dead in a skinny minute if he was not who he was.

Money is the issue here, not race.

We need to give our AA brothers and sisters a helping hand to battle poverty and mass incarceration for petty drug crimes. If the communities of color were not so over represented in the criminal justice system, the number of interactions with police, and thus the number of cases of tragedy (justified and not), would be much lower.

It's time to support sensible drug policy, a living wage and a new deal scale infrastructure program.

... on the receiving end of police brutality (including murder by police).

It is HORRIFIC and it needs to stop.

and see those stats.

It is all wrong.

But let's not forget there are some bad guys out there.

I have a feeling there will be some parallels. But for that to happen, we need the police to start tracking and reporting every deadly force and in-custody death. And once that data is available, it's going to confirm what we already know: we need to help minority communities dig themselves out of crippling poverty.

A sensible drug policy coupled with a living wage mandate will be the fastest way to reduce crime, reduce negative police / community interaction, and fix many of society's other woes.

I never knew that statistic about police killings on Native Americans

Percentage wise higher than any other race

That's where journalism is these days. Those that scream the loudest get heard.
It's not that people don't care, it's that people don't know