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And their only meaningful difference is on social/cultural issues. They are identical, for all intents and purposes, in their subservience to the corporatists and tenth-percenters.

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Kick the damn Conservatives out and back where they belong.

A progressive MOVEMENT would put its weight behind progressive candidates in an existing party.

At the turn of the last century, the Progressives were sometimes a third party, but often allied themselves with the Republicans. Think Teddy Roosevelt, Bob LaFollette. In 1932, they jumped massively behind FDR & the New Deal. That's really when the Dems got their Progressive coloration.

isn't an option. The independent progressive movement is in full swing. Moveon.org's push to get Sen Warren to run is a good example as was OWS.

Read my signature line.

And the interesting thing is that I think there are a lot more Progressive activists than are being picked up on anybody's radar.

A movement is much larger than a single political party.

for them. IF we are lucky the Rs in congress now are going to make it very clear that we need to change away from them and Ds that are leaning toward them. Then we might be able to take our FDR party back.

Democrats are in denial, and when someone points it out, the response triggered is a piece of well-worn party propaganda that doesn't even apply, rather than a thoughtful discussion of the reality.

For example: This OP doesn't suggest forming a 3rd party, but rather than look at the real point, that's where you went.

Make it strong enough to throw out the infiltrators with their neocon and right wing economic policies Don't support THEIR candidates, choose our own. That has already begun to happen.

The people are no longer buying 'just hold your nose and vote we need to WIN 'at all costs'. That worked during the Bush years, it catapulted Dems into power in 2008. But voters are no dumb, despite the disdain of the Third Way, and having put them in power, they expected promised results. Now we've seen the whole system run by the Third Way come full circle and there is a revolt against it. Too bad they refuse to acknowledge it. But it doesn't matter, if Progressives form a strong MOVEMENT within the party, rather than just going along with the status quo, we CAN defeat them and take back the party.

watching Harry Reid fail in such vital fights as the filibuster fight. In watching the 2014 election go to hell. But that does not make me happy.

How many years is it going to take us to build this new party? With Bernie we could probably make it a national party but what about the state parties? How long to get a really progressive senate and house? IF there is a big enough crisis we might actually be able to do it faster which would be good but without it the states who elect Rs are still going to and the states that elect DInos still will and the president will have to deal with it. If we cannot field a winning candidate blue states might also be a lose.

The point I am trying to make is that we do not have years. We have mostly lost already. With the lose in 2014 we took a huge step backwards and nothing is going to get better in the next 2 years. IF we do not succeed in 2016 we might just as well set back and watch the fir fly.

So we need to talk about how to get this new party going NOW. Bernie or Elizabeth and a few others in the party are a good start. Where do we go from here?

Will I still be active, passionate and full of life?
Or will I feel redundant,
Yearning for the day I’ll die…

Too many are too willing to take too much shit. It's that whole frog in boiling water thing, yeah it's not boiling yet but it's damn hot and no one is jumping out.

That said I'm in full agreement with the article, I just see too many happy with the status quo..

Make them earn our votes.

if that tool gets broken or has outlived it's usefulness - get a new tool.

There is a INDEPENDENT-LEFT PROGRESSIVE MOMENT. Our program and Independent Underground News & Talk and Radio LIVE have been on the cusp of this movement since 2010 and keep growing in listeners and supporters as a result.

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Can you give me another link?

thanks.

Here are the two Links:

Independent Underground News & Talk

Independent Underground Radio LIVE

Thanks for the inquiry!

Thanks!!

Having a domain that's fundamentally different from what you advertise your site as does not help you. Nor does stuffing 13 trackers onto the main page.

SoundCloud is understandable, and acceptable, but most of the others are beacons or advertising cookie stuffers. Between the redirects, and time spent waiting for all the spyware to load, it makes your page load times interminable too.

I understand the need to help support yourself through advertising, but there are better ways of doing it which don't track and follow your visitors all over the web.

Finally, why are you stealing bandwidth from smooththemes.com by linking directly to one of their images? That's especially puzzling since you're using Blogger which allows you to upload your own images.
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This is OUR website, not yours. Second, we can have any trackers, Soundcloud affiliation or anything else we feel like on our site. We own the domain of iunewstalk.com.

Meanwhile, keep your website analysis to anyone that cares to partake in your bah-bah BS as we certain do not.

Finally, the Theme is available via a Blogger Template website.

It's so rare and refreshing to see people stand up for sketchy tracking cookies. I'm glad you will continue to have them on your site.

And you're free to operate like some dodgy fly-by-night scam artist, or the NSA, if you want to.

Thanks for the links.

Middle-class anger isn’t about race, taxes, social services or social change. It’s mainly about middle-class decline and public corruption. Democrats talk a lot about both problems — but if they were really trying to solve either one, we’d all know it.

The prevailing analysis fosters passivity. Whenever people speak of forces rather than choices it’s a sure sign they aren’t about to do anything. Progressives who blame their losses on globalization, white backlash or money in politics are less apt to focus on the one thing they alone control: their own choices.

governance that can allow a black person to be elected, basically. I wish we could have a strong liberal and I mean liberal independent progressive movement. But if it is anything like the liberal and progressives I've had the wonderful experience of dealing with for the last 30+ years, it won't happen. The right and left party elite along with their lackeys will try to destroy it before it gets off the ground. Something like was done to the Occupy movement, coopted with infiltrated people with the one express purpose of making it meaningless.
Cointelpro style.

Hopefully it can be done. I'm all for it.

You know, priorities.

And make the site. There's a project for someone who desires to take it on....

was quite similar to that of Republican defeats in 2006 & 1988. In other words, typical results for the sixth year of a two-term President. (Democrats probably escaped that fate under Clinton due to impeachment fever on the other side.)

I think we read too much into the mid-term election results at our own peril. After 2010, the Republicans were certain, just certain, that they would sweep back into the White House. Didn't happen.

2016 favors us.

Thanks for sharing this RiverLover. These are all very worthwhile goals. I agree with everything on that platform. We must reform the democratic party. We need a strong progressive movement that looks out for the large majority and wants them to succeed. We must make corporations and the ultra rich pay their fair share. I believe we must close those big corporate loopholes and double the tax rate on the top 2%.

We're a wealthy country and people who work should make enough to live comfortably. Every single person.

I support the most progressive possible candidates locally and on a state and federal level as well.

I think we should start proposing specifics. I want to see the activist spirit that has helped us achieve prosperity as a nation. It must come from the people. We must put up good candidates. We must keep talking with friends about it.

I feel a lot of discontent and dissatisfaction in our country. Rightfully so. We must work together to keep fighting for our rights and privileges, or they will be stolen from us.

I've begun reading at the progressive group and appreciate all the folks who are posting there.

We need to make our voices heard, and support the many true populist liberals in office, too.

In case you missed it, I think you may love this video~

Thanks for your excellent posts too. We see eye to eye on this. We need more fighters like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders and Maxine Waters and Allen Grayson and Al Franken. That's a great video. Thanks for sharing it.

The time is right for fighting democrats. Really tap in to the anger and hatred that average people have toward Wall Street, toward cronyism, toward shitty big corporate bullshit policies that don't do a goddamn thing to help main street. Personally, I'd like to see people like Tom Hayden and Angela Davis in their 20's and 30s arise and run for office and get elected at local levels. Say no to developers, to Wal-Mart, to every bs thing that promises jobs when what they really mean is shitty part-time jobs. Raise the living wage in every town across America that will elect those people. One town at a time.

We need a youth movement that has the energy, desire and determination to fight for their future! Run for office, say fuck you to wall street, share the wealth. Offer five point plans for legislation, like doubling the marginal taxation rate on those in the top 2%, cutting the military budget in half, free health care for all. We have the wealth. It must be shared.

Will check it out.

Thanks for asking for it.

movement suggested in the OP. There are other groups forming, some before the midterms, to get Progressive Dems elected and to put Progressive issues on local ballots across the country. I did post about one of those groups which was very successful, in the other forum also.

The problem is the Democratic Party leadership.

Less old school cronyism. More people who embrace regulating Wall Street, raising taxes on the richest, lowering or eliminating taxes on the poorest, and raising wages to enable people to live comfortably, not hand to mouth or paycheck to paycheck, imho.

I appreciate everyone who is involved in it. I myself am involved in reading about it, talking with friends about it, and spreading the word!

Real change will only occur from the grass roots, from we the people. Something has got to give. An honest day's work should be paid an honest day's wage - enough to live and dream and save money and build a better life!

On the issue of how it might or might not be involved with the democratic party. My two cents is that it should develop a base that retains credibility and optimism. And that it put up candidates in the democratic party, who are less tools of big corporations and more representative of the people.

I know it's a tough road. But we need this to put the country in a better direction, where we care for our brothers and sisters and we share the wealth more equally.

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The only solution...

...in my opinion, is that the present Democratic Party needs to split into a similar coalition, as did the GOP and the Tea Party. They are really one and the same. But, for political purposes, the Tea Party takes on the "dirty work" for the GOP. They espouse and sermonize on all the issues that the more "moderate" Republicans do not want to talk about. But, they have their coalition. They are one and the same.

The labor side of the Democratic Party may need to separate from the social progressive Democrats? The labor side of the Party supports most of the issues that the social Democrats do, also, but believe more emphasis should be given to labor issues, such as minimum wage increases, saving Social Security and Medicare, providing work to those in need, and especially in our infrastructure.

But why? And the response would be that it would give all Democrats a choice of Party that they are comfortable with and still remain within the Democratic Party tent. The labor side of the Democratic Party should seek a divorce from the Democratic Party.

That's the only solution that I see, but, I may be a radical?

with this theme. I have yet to read how this will get done.
It takes lots of money to run for office. How are progressives going to fund a winning campaign?

compete with the Oligarchs, but so what? That's not a reason not to join the movement. A movement that has already started. Of course the Corp-Media is ignoring the movement as are those here in DU that a Progressive Movement will upset their comfortable status-quo. They fear that the Progressive Movement will reject their H. Clinton, pride of Wall Street.

In this class war there are two sides, the Progressive Movement that supports the 99% and American Constitution and the 1% Oligarchy with their "wana-be" followers. Pick a side.