Let's get right back to what REALLY matters!

I'm old....

The article says that, a "significant amount of the greenhouse gas methane is leaking" from the sea floor, so you post a headline that reads it is "releasing large volumes of methane." Alarmist much?

Not going say how I voted, sorry.



On Mon Dec 29, 2014, 01:25 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Does your proctologist have trouble, with your head being in the way?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6015804

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This is a perfect example of why post should be hidden. Making fun of, bullying, and being disrespectful is a big no-no.

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Explanation: Under normal circumstances I would vote to hide because it is a by-the-book violation of the rule, but the headline used for this thread is the headline of the article. Someone's head is up their own ass and it isn't the person being alerted on...
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Do you parse words like significant and large on a daily basis...i hope you are not any where near science in society.

Dog help us all

The body of the article states "significant amounts"

JayhawkSD...READ MUCH?

Let me guess...you like fracking too....I'll bet your one of those people/trolls that
wont believe sea levels are rising until we have beaches in Kansas again.

From a Wildcat......Go K-State.

OK, maybe Ghidrah and Mothra too.






That's an awful lot of methane.

I wonder what the real truth is about so called "clean natural gas". I suspect that it's methane leakage is much higher than reported - I suspect we have pipelines running under cities that contribute further to this. Now it's leaking from the arctic...

Over eight billion people on earth. Brilliant minds of sound and sophisticated logic inform us quite simply that there are too many of us for this to continue. Even if we don't somehow destroy ourselves through the effects of climate change, or nuclear war - we'll still run out of resources before too long...

On the other hand... nearly every generation believes that it is seeing the worst suffering the world can endure - or more than it can endure. Somehow we struggle on. World War 2 left millions dead, Nations occupied, most of Europe crippled. Yet, take a look now - and the one time tyrants and villains are now one of the leaders of the free world.

Consider the TB plague of decades past, or the Avian flu, or any number of disasters that caused so much destruction, so much death. Somehow, the human race struggled on. Undoubtedly, many thought the world would come to an end, for reasons that, at the time, were logically, even scientifically sound.

One thing I believe in almost fanatically, however... is the will to live. Or, as a favorite actor put it "Life finds a way". Today we have things that were never possible before. From the printing press, to the newest smart phone. From a wondrous medicine made out of... mold... of all things - to new treatments for cancer, for the aids virus. We went from exploring most of the known world to putting human beings on the moon. We went from sailing across the ocean in a journey of months to reach other lands... to flying to those same lands in a few hours.

As long as we are here now, there is hope for later. Who knows what the next year, ten years, or twenty could bring? Colonization of other planets? Will human beings be able to teleport? Yes - as in "beam me up Scotty!"? Maybe that seems silly, far-fetched, too sci fi... well, not so long ago, the internet seemed the same way. Not too long ago, a rag-tag bunch of militia defeated the mightiest military on earth - and established the United States of America.

Nothing is truly absolute. Except for maybe Math, I never much liked math.

World population = 7.2 billion

http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

Will humanity survive - quite likely.

Will industrial society survive - quite unlikely.

We'll be relegated to the few temperate zones left in northern latitudes and at high altitude and we'll all be involved in producing enough food to keep us alive.

I'm glad I'm old. I really don't want to see what's coming if we don't change things very quickly.

All any of us that are aware can do is share accumulated wisdom and help preserve useful portions of society, culture and knowledge for future generations.

For those interested, one would suggest the Arch Druid Report for long-term insight.

Namaste - Peace

And I suspect that won't get better with the new year.

Oh for the love of God, somebody stick a cork in McCain's ass.

Follow Scientific American, New Scientist, or any other genuine Science Articles and this is old news, cept it was new news when I read it.

Permafrost contains methane and carbon. As the the ice caps melts, so does the bottom of the ocean.

Seems things are unfolding as foretold.

Each person born adds mega-tons of CO2 to the atmosphere by meat eating, heating, manufacturing and transportation. I dont see this happening so the future looks dim.

end of civilization clichés but I'm not quite at that point yet. I will say that this is a significant beginning of a process that can't be stopped with a decade of human interventions. A complete change of systems tomorrow morning for 10 years can't fix this one; it's out of our hands. It may stop itself tomorrow because the amount was much less than expected or it turns out to be thousands of broken pipelines.... but that likelihood is almost zero.

Work like hell, people... for the survival of humankind, because now we are talking survival not pleasantries. When the ocean speaks, all human power disappears as if we never existed.

NASA and other Scientists regarding Climate Change back in say....19 fucking 80!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we are history at this point.This process feeds itself. Bad. Very very bad.
WE seriously need huge amounts of science and ways and people coming together on this one. So sad for the intelligent life (animals, etc...) on this planet.

eom

Zero Population Growth. "In the late 1960s ZPG became a prominent political movement in the U.S. and parts of Europe, with strong links to environmentalism and feminism. Yale University was a stronghold of the ZPG activists who believed “that a constantly increasing population is responsible for many of our problems: pollution, violence, loss of values and of individual privacy.” "Founding fathers of the movement were Paul Ehrlich, author of The Population Bomb, and Thomas Eisner. Ehrlich stated: “The mother of the year should be a sterilized woman with two adopted children.” (Wikipedia)

We as a culture examined the affects of population growth on all the world resources and came up with the idea that zero population growth was a responsible goal in order to protect the earth. BUT DID ANY ONE LISTEN?????? Hell no. Capitalism/commercialism depends on a growing market in order to sustain growth and increase profits. Once again, as I've always said, it's all about the money. Then, as now, industry is willing and eager to trade the future of the planet for next-quarter profits.

And yes, I did my bit: I have only one child and she is now all grown up, married and has only one child of her own.

We can't trust this because the Russians are involved and
everybody knows Putin is worse-than-Hitler.

Siberia makes such a nice torch.

Methane though, is significantly lighter than air. What happens to it as it rises?

it certainly won't help mankind. The rush to wars and the proliferation of various types of nukes will very likely end in near annihilation of most things on the earth.

So cockroach's can look forward to inheriting the earth.

Not to mention sauerkraut.