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Another nugget from the mornings news digest. Like many, I have been following the decline of Detroit but having never been there, had no real reference.
This time line of Google/bing street view photos is simply amazing. The changes from 2008 to 2013 were simply jaw dropping for me. Never realized the spiral downward could happen so fast.
Kilgore
http://homes.yahoo.com/blogs/spaces/a-stark--unsentimental-look-at-detroit-s-rapid-slide-202246171.html
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Someone is paying for that service. Who? Why?
Abandonment is one thing, clearing the land immediately after the occupants have left is another.
What's the end game?
jeff47
(26,549 posts)They tend to catch fire much more often than occupied houses. People squatting in them or using them for illegal activities are not paying utilities, so they use other sources of heat and cooking. And in a modern house that makes it much more likely that the house will burn down (We don't have big fireplaces anymore).
They're also more expensive because of the aforementioned squatters and illegal activity.
Finally, if there are no longer any houses in a large area, the city doesn't have to maintain the utility connections to that area. No need for water or sewer pipes when there's no buildings.
So cities often bulldoze abandoned houses. Yes, there's an expense up front, but it reduces their expenses down the road.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Yet plenty of money and manpower to clear abandoned lots.
Makes me think there are plans for that land.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)It's not a huge expense, and not a lot of effort.
One person drives an excavator that knocks the house down, then he loads the debris into a dump truck driven by the second person.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)People who have never been in the neighborhoods of Detroit think that it is just a bunch of fixer uppers.
Some may be, but the reality is, even the ones that are not burned out are frequently very old to begin with. Things decay naturally. Add broken windows and open doors and no plumbing or wiring, you have a health and safety disaster that cannot be effectively saved.
Source: I have two eyes and drive cab, spending a lot of time in neighborhoods that scare the hell outta most people.
Triana
(22,666 posts)Capitalist wasteland.
Americans could do better. But they refuse.
a kennedy
(29,711 posts)so, so sad.
N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,782 posts)A little positive things that are happening in the fair city of Detroit. It's easy to point out the decline in anything, takes a little more work to find the positive.
Yes, Detroit was a city in trouble for a long time. but the come back should be noted also. There are still many problems to be addressed and worked out but we are coming around.
Come on for a visit, Kilgore, you may be amazed. The North American Auto Show is coming up, stop by for a visit.
http://www.naias.com
Check out this article from Detroit Free Press:
Couple's rehab of Detroit family home leads to TV show
http://www.freep.com/story/life/2014/12/28/american-rehab-detroit-tv-show/20925453/
http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/detroit-bankruptcy/2014/11/09/bankruptcy-numbers-detroit-change/18722275/
http://archive.freep.com/article/20140720/BUSINESS06/307200105/detroit-ilitch-arena-downtown-midtown-apartments
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g42139-d560603-Reviews-Eastern_Market-Detroit_Michigan.html
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)My last trip two years ago I saw some construction in downtown, some new stores, bars, restaurants, etc. I took a tour of the Fox Theater which is flourishing. Big renovations to the COBO convention center.
N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,782 posts)Housing is coming around. Many people from the suburbs are moving back into the city. I fail to mention the casinos, cuz I really don't agree with gambling, but the jobs the created cannot be overlooked along with supported business.
It will take a while but the people of Detroit endure.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)Gentrification alert! Gentrification alert!
Detroit has to be left in bad shape so the people who live there have places to squat. If you start fixing up buildings, clearing weeds, cleaning up trash, opening retail businesses, and generally making it a safe, attractive, and pleasant place to live, you will force out the current residents who apparently don't want these things.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)proverbialwisdom
(4,959 posts)FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)Some people on both the left and right need Detroit to be a Mad Max dystopia to help make their points. They don't want to hear any good news about "The City" - it totally interferes with their racist (on the right) or anti-capitalist (on the left) narratives.