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You are here* (Original Post) Playinghardball Dec 2014 OP
The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #1
A really great quote! vlakitti Dec 2014 #8
Looking forward to the safeinOhio Dec 2014 #2
I don't think the comparison works... brooklynite Dec 2014 #3
Agreed, mostly because the buzzwords like "bankers" and "corporate elite" don't really mean much stevenleser Dec 2014 #6
Top 2 levels should be 'billionaires' n2doc Dec 2014 #4
here is a 1911 version central scrutinizer Dec 2014 #5
The top 4 are intertwined. However, I would put the Corporate Elite at the top. progressoid Dec 2014 #7
This is great Gothmog Dec 2014 #9
 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
1. The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 04:43 PM
Dec 2014
The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the people versus the banks. Lord Acton, circa 1870s

brooklynite

(94,745 posts)
3. I don't think the comparison works...
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 04:59 PM
Dec 2014

...The Federal Reserve may support the banking industry, but it doesn't exercise the top level of either political or economic control...unless you're buying into the "Federal Reserve is a secret organization independent of the Government" conspiracy theory.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
6. Agreed, mostly because the buzzwords like "bankers" and "corporate elite" don't really mean much
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 05:12 PM
Dec 2014

Among the vast majority of things we on the left get right, the use of these trite terms doesn't help us much when actually setting policy.

They are convenient terms on which to rail against, but because they don't really mean anything, it hampers us getting anything done in the long term.

This is where one of occupy's strengths comes in. Economically, they said Occupy was against policies that benefit the 1% at the expense of the 99%. Well, there is a standard with which you can measure every economic policy or policy that has an impact on economics in some way and determine if it is a policy you should oppose or support.

Being against nebulous "bankers" or "corporate elite" doesn't give you anything remotely like that.

Then comes the whole central banking thing and the conspiratorial implication you mention that also definitely applies.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
4. Top 2 levels should be 'billionaires'
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 05:02 PM
Dec 2014

Maybe with a distinction between ordinary and well connected (Koches, Murdoch) ones. Bankers are included there where appropriate.

progressoid

(49,999 posts)
7. The top 4 are intertwined. However, I would put the Corporate Elite at the top.
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 06:01 PM
Dec 2014

I do like how the clergy and Entertainers are lumped together. Since they are essentially the same.

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