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US 'Formally' Ends 'War' in Afghanistan. Troops Respond: (Original Post) grahamhgreen Dec 2014 OP
The only good thing about this statement is that Obama wasn't wearing a flight suit with a sock in Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #1
And what did the ones stationed in Germany, Italy, Japan, and Korea say? jberryhill Dec 2014 #2
Same motherf#ckin thing. Plus, why don't we fix our own problems first? grahamhgreen Dec 2014 #3
Probably nothing. So what? Doctor_J Dec 2014 #4
Our wars in those places ended some time ago jberryhill Dec 2014 #5
Let's see...Afghanistan vs. Italy...are those anything like each other... Doctor_J Dec 2014 #6
he's right. see post #10 uhnope Dec 2014 #11
this bizarre talking point again. jesus christ. m-lekktor Dec 2014 #8
It's not a "talking point" it's basic reality: troops in a place does not equal war continuing uhnope Dec 2014 #10
Tell that to the Taliban who continue the war in Afghanistan neverforget Dec 2014 #12
Maybe because it's their country, we attacked them. Like Japan attacked us. grahamhgreen Dec 2014 #13
By "their country", you mean the Taliban? jberryhill Dec 2014 #22
I mean - not ours. grahamhgreen Dec 2014 #32
I beg your pardon? jberryhill Dec 2014 #15
Why? We can't really afford it, can we? grahamhgreen Dec 2014 #17
I have not the foggiest idea, Graham jberryhill Dec 2014 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Jeff Rosenzweig Dec 2014 #24
Are people in those counties trying to kill American troops? former9thward Dec 2014 #19
I can't speak for everyone in Afghanistan jberryhill Dec 2014 #20
Americans are not stationed in N. Korea. former9thward Dec 2014 #25
" You really think being stationed in Afghanistan has the same danger level as Germany?" jberryhill Dec 2014 #26
" And what did the ones stationed in Germany, Italy, Japan, and Korea say?" former9thward Dec 2014 #27
No, I am observing that there are troops in many places where we are not pursuing an active war jberryhill Dec 2014 #28
That they're not in war zones? LittleBlue Dec 2014 #23
When our plane flew out of Vietnam, we let out a collective/spontaneous cheer. n/t UTUSN Dec 2014 #7
the war did not end, it will go on and on ...nt quadrature Dec 2014 #9
it's so this accomplishment can be added to THE LIST Skittles Dec 2014 #14
The latest act in the foreign policy kabuki theater KG Dec 2014 #16
The U.S. may have ended the 'war' she wanted to fight. But the Afghan Resistance (aka KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #21
pretty much. grahamhgreen Dec 2014 #31
my great-uncle was ineuro[pe long after WW2 ended. and that was a clear win. pansypoo53219 Dec 2014 #29
We lost. Get out. Get over it. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #30

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
1. The only good thing about this statement is that Obama wasn't wearing a flight suit with a sock in
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 09:35 PM
Dec 2014

his pants.

Bring home our people and deman Congress end the AUMF. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-107publ40/pdf/PLAW-107publ40.pdf

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
6. Let's see...Afghanistan vs. Italy...are those anything like each other...
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 11:28 PM
Dec 2014

Nope! Maybe we should ask the soldiers if they would like to trade places.

Aside from the fact that they should ALL be home, your comparison of Rome to Kabul is ridiculous

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
10. It's not a "talking point" it's basic reality: troops in a place does not equal war continuing
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 11:50 PM
Dec 2014

neverforget

(9,436 posts)
12. Tell that to the Taliban who continue the war in Afghanistan
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 12:24 AM
Dec 2014

as opposed to the German and Japanese who surrendered and the shooting stopped. There was no insurgency in those countries.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
15. I beg your pardon?
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:16 AM
Dec 2014

It occurred to me that there are troops stationed in a lot of places where there are no wars. I didn't think it was a particularly bizarre thought.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
18. I have not the foggiest idea, Graham
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 01:54 PM
Dec 2014

Good fucking God, this place has become ridiculous. A casual observation that "presence of troops" does not mean "continuation of war" is taken as if it is an observation looking for a fight.

I have no clue when everyone on DU got on such a fucking hair trigger over every casual comment.

Response to jberryhill (Reply #18)

former9thward

(32,019 posts)
19. Are people in those counties trying to kill American troops?
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 01:57 PM
Dec 2014

It seems there is a difference between Afghanistan and those countries.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
20. I can't speak for everyone in Afghanistan
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 02:04 PM
Dec 2014

So, if that question really puzzles you, perhaps you might ask someone who knows.

In Korea, it pretty much looks like a staring contest.



But I would imagine that the troops stationed in Afghanistan might have something to do with the agreement between the US and the government there which the US recognizes.

former9thward

(32,019 posts)
25. Americans are not stationed in N. Korea.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 02:40 PM
Dec 2014

And N. Korea is not killing U.S. troops regardless. People in Afghanistan are trying to kill American troops and they have been successful at it. You really think being stationed in Afghanistan has the same danger level as Germany? The so-called agreement by the Afghan government means nothing outside of Kabul and not even there. That agreement does not stop bullets, IEDs or anything else which will kill Americans.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
26. " You really think being stationed in Afghanistan has the same danger level as Germany?"
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 02:43 PM
Dec 2014

No. Nor did I suggest any such thing.

I hope your argument finds someone who is on the other side of it.

former9thward

(32,019 posts)
27. " And what did the ones stationed in Germany, Italy, Japan, and Korea say?"
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 02:52 PM
Dec 2014

Your post. You are implying the situation in those countries are the same as Afghanistan. The posters replying to you know it.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
28. No, I am observing that there are troops in many places where we are not pursuing an active war
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 03:05 PM
Dec 2014

The observation that there are troops stationed somewhere where there is not a war strikes me as facile.

Beyond that, I am impressed with the gathering of psychics here to tell me what I think.

We didn't have ANY troops in mainland Japan until after that war was over, come to think of it.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
23. That they're not in war zones?
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 02:09 PM
Dec 2014

Perhaps also that the Axis Powers were defeated 70 years ago. That's probably what they say.

UTUSN

(70,706 posts)
7. When our plane flew out of Vietnam, we let out a collective/spontaneous cheer. n/t
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 11:34 PM
Dec 2014

Last edited Sat Jan 3, 2015, 10:30 PM - Edit history (2)

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
21. The U.S. may have ended the 'war' she wanted to fight. But the Afghan Resistance (aka
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 02:04 PM
Dec 2014

"Taliban&quot has not ended the war it wants to fight (to drive out the foreign occupation and defeat collaborators). The Afghan Resistance's spring offensive of 2015 may mean that we finally admit defeat in the war the Resistance is fighting and pull the remainder of our occupation forces out.

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