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(2,169 posts) Tue Dec 30, 2014, 12:02 AM Dec 2014

Florida congressman Alan Grayson denied access to censored pages from Congress’ 9/11 report

Dan Christensen, BrowardBulldog.org December 29, 2014

The U.S. House Intelligence Committee has denied a Florida congressman’s request for access to 28 classified pages from the 2002 report of Congress’ Joint Inquiry into the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Rep. Alan Grayson, D-Orlando, told BrowardBulldog.org he made his request at the suggestion of House colleagues who have read them as they consider whether to support a proposed resolution urging President Obama to open those long-censored pages to the public.

“Why was I denied? I have been instrumental in publicizing the Snowden revelations regarding pervasive domestic spying by the government and this is a petty means for the spying industrial complex to lash back,” Grayson said last week, referring to National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden.

Redacted on orders from then-President George W. Bush, the report says the 28 pages concern “specific sources of foreign support” for the 9/11 hijackers while they were in the U.S. Specifically, that is “the role of Saudi Arabia in funding 9/11,” according to former Florida Senator Bob Graham, who co-chaired the Joint Inquiry and helped write the 28 pages...

continued: http://www.browardbulldog.org/2014/12/florida-congressman-denied-access-to-censored-pages-from-congress-911-report/

Why are 28 pages critical to understanding the most important event in recent history being censored?
http://28pages.org/

Obama: “I will get them released”
http://28pages.org/2014/08/18/obamas-unkept-promise-to-911-families-declassifying-28-pages/

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Florida congressman Alan Grayson denied access to censored pages from Congress’ 9/11 report (Original Post) nationalize the fed Dec 2014 OP

Is it *legal* to refuse a member of congress access delrem Dec 2014 #1

I am fairly certain that both the House and the Senate can refuse or limit access Lurks Often Dec 2014 #9

"These are not The 28 Pages you're looking for." johnnyreb Dec 2014 #2

This is reminiscent of the NYPD "turning their backs" Trillo Dec 2014 #3

"obamas-unkept-promise-to-911-families-declassifying-28-pages/" BeanMusical Dec 2014 #4

Groan. So now 911 is our fault too. ucrdem Dec 2014 #5

REally? I think Grayson is one of the best chess players, when it comes to the Republicans sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #6

Is that a statement or a question? CJCRANE Dec 2014 #10

WTF!? wildbilln864 Dec 2014 #7

The Quiet Coup is nearly complete. Scuba Dec 2014 #8

delrem

(9,688 posts)

1. Is it *legal* to refuse a member of congress access

Reply to nationalize the fed (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 01:19 AM

Dec 2014

to a congressional inquiry?

If it is legal is it *usual*?
If it is legal, isn't it a very dangerous law?

I continue hearing the warmongers dismiss all counterarguments to their message of hate, saying that the people don't have access to the detailed and exclusive information that the congressional lawmakers have, so should go along with the wars and atrocities that they bring into being just because the people should trust the judgement of those who're actually informed. It's a sick, sick argument, but there you go. Those who accept such an argument - and there are many, perhaps a large majority - aren't about to listen to reason. This is 2014 and that argument has been trotted out for 13 years now, through two distinct administrations covering the only political parties that the US has.

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)

9. I am fairly certain that both the House and the Senate can refuse or limit access

Reply to delrem (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:59 AM

Dec 2014

to certain information, most notably intelligence reports and activities related to the various intelligence agencies.

I don't know how often it happens, it's probably not something widely reported or talked about.

As to how dangerous a law it is depends on your point of view. Are you willing to trust EVERY single member of Congress not to divulge things that justifiably classified at a very high level, I certainly don't.

Should it have been refused in this specific case, I don't know.

On edit: I've read and believe that Truman was not told about the atom bomb until AFTER FDR had died. I also strongly suspect virtually no one in Congress was told we had broken both the Japanese and German codes during WWII. So there is historical precedent for one branch of the government severely limiting or preventing classified information from being released.

johnnyreb

(915 posts)

2. "These are not The 28 Pages you're looking for."

Reply to nationalize the fed (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 01:32 AM

Dec 2014

Trillo

(9,154 posts)

3. This is reminiscent of the NYPD "turning their backs"

Reply to nationalize the fed (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 01:36 AM

Dec 2014

on their mayor.

This is getting interesting.

BeanMusical

(4,389 posts)

4. "obamas-unkept-promise-to-911-families-declassifying-28-pages/"

Reply to nationalize the fed (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 03:05 AM

Dec 2014

He's a lean, mean, promising machine. And rarely keeps them.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)

5. Groan. So now 911 is our fault too.

Reply to nationalize the fed (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 03:10 AM

Dec 2014

This was badly played.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)

6. REally? I think Grayson is one of the best chess players, when it comes to the Republicans

Reply to ucrdem (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 03:49 AM

Dec 2014

in Congress. Ever see HIM take on a Republican liar? It is a thing of beauty.

And just why would a Dem asking to let the public see what the Bush War Criminal Gang have been hiding for over a decade, be a negative thing to you?