Asleep during Clinton's two terms? Yeah, the media has always been fair to her.

...until she becomes the candidate, whereupon they will push the Republican.

"If you are not with HRC. ..therefore you are AUTOMATICALLY a RW supporter "

Plain manichean vision.

and oh, the trashing of a Democrat on DU, lots of this to go around.

Bit of course they are less "popular".. so...it matters less.

And no. You can be a Clinton supporters and that doesnt mean YOU are a RWers.
Many are supporting her simply because they see her as the only alternative to a Paul or a Jeb.

though this is also true, I have followed the Clintons since 1980, she has a good record and though many deny her record and claim name recognition, etc I support HRC because of her stand on the issues, life time of working for Democratic issues.
I have not found this in other potential candidates.

You DON'T like Hillary Clinton and you claim other progressive don't as well (nb - polling suggests a substantial portion of Democrats DO like her)

You like Warren but you acknowledge she won't run

You like Sanders but you acknowledge he can't win the General Election.

So.....?

who can get enough support will finally ger out and show up. Why not Gore. He is still liked. Why not someone like Pelosi. Or Boxer?

...say what you will about the Supreme Court; Gore lost ten States (including his home State of Tennessee), a win in any one would have made Florida irrelevant.

Pelosi has never expressed an iota of interest in running for POTUS, and she's SEVENTY FOUR years old. Barbara Boxer is also SEVENTY FOUR....and she's RETIRING.



None of those selections are viable. They are "getting on," they have no national fundraising footprint or ground game, and they aren't INTERESTED--otherwise, they would have piped up long before now.

We're almost in it--the clock is ticking down to the start. The starting gun will go in Spring.

that's exactly the reason why they're being touted "instead of" SoS Clinton by some on DU.

SoS Clinton is the ONLY Democrat who has the connections, power, money, and name recognition to defeat Jebbie...and they're - those on the Right and some on the "Left" - are terrified of her.

Best response to anyone who touts like that is to encourage them to get out their checkbook and donate to their preferred Democrat--do it smartly, quickly and generously, now!

It'll get shoved into that candidate's PAC, and they'll transfer it to the DNC, where it will be spent on issue ads for the nominee!



Donate early and often! Put that money where that mouth is, I say!

about this at our latest fox hunt.

She doesn't take these "grassroots progressive activists" seriously and neither should her Hillraisers.

Multiple s for this chestnut: "Btw will a primary be set up?"

Daily.

it contains so much RW wishful thinking, it has to be intentional.

All we need is to hold the Obama blue states and we win. Hillary isn't turning any red states blue either.

It's a dumb argument against Sanders and Warren.

... vs Romney or Jeb, I absolutely don't give a rat's ass who wins because there will be no tangible difference on the issues I care about, mostly economic.

They are all warmongers, none of them ever met a bankster they didn't want to bail out and none of them give a flying fuck about the working poor in America.

Glad you summed my exact thoughs!

Kick!!!

vacancies

Constitution, I suspect you'll sing a very different tune.

right decisions, we need people who can make decisions in the best interest of the security of the US.

Or, Clinton II vs Bush III both claiming to be "not as bad" as the other.

Bush. Clinton. The never ending crossing families

but please continue to bash the best chance we have so far at retaining the whitehouse the cons love u for it

"If You are Not with us...then you are Against us/with the GOP. .."...

Sounds like a Dubya statement before invading Irak. "If you are not with us you are with terrorists"

Same simple slogan.

and she still has to get past the primary. actually you make it sound as if she's just going to be installed " Btw will a primary be set up?" yes it will be -

NO WHERE DID I SAY
"If You are Not with us...then you are Against us/with the GOP. .."...

good there than she will as President.

when she is president and again as the RW preached doom and gloom she make the decisions she is capable of making. RW say Obama is the worst president ever but they totally over looked 2001-2009, don't write HRC off, she is strong, very strong.

I offered my opinion you offer a bullshit incoherent attack, try to proof read and correct your post. It's none of your business and I hate to burst your little authoritarian bubble but in 2008 I was a strong Hillary supporter, I had the pleasure of meeting her twice and talking to her on the phone a couple of times. I think she's a wonderful person. Hillary does good things, she always has but I think she would do better working for the things that have always been a priority for her as a private, powerful woman. Without the limitations of the White House. As for being heartbroken over Hillary? I'm an intelligent, grown woman, I don't get heartbroken over public figures. Especially politicians.

DU seems to be loaded with piss poor psychics these days.

Your attack will not bother me in the least, but at least get the truth before you attack others.

is president" ..That was posted by you to me, I am the you that you responded to. You bet I found it offensive and I won't reply to you again.

foundation and now you are offended. Life goes on.

By the way? The Republicans and the Koch Bros share your wishful thinking, Autumn. Fancy that.

Smart, intelligent Democrats.

In the primary or the GE. But best of luck to her. I believe in the democratic process. If she wins, fine. But she'll have to do it without my vote.

" I believe in the democratic process."you believe in it but youre just not taking part in it. this is why dems dont get anything they pout take their ball and go home and give the field to ted cruz.

That it is BECAUSE he believes in a DEMOCRATIC peocess that he cant vote for her.

Because for some of us, like ot or not, a teue primary process is won over ideas debates and confrontation on important issues and how each contender wants to deal with it. Not on only hyoe factor and name recognition. Look . It really seems Hillary doesnt even need to talk about her tenure at State and defend it to gain approbation! !!!!

the DEM candidate will win my state. So I am free to vote for another candidate.
I have no issue with the person you will be voting for, be it Hillary or anyone else.

any way deserting the party to the opposition.

My concern regarding not voting is summed up in something my dad said years ago: "If you don't vote for your party then you are voting for the other party." In your case that is not what you are doing. Yours is the only true form of protest at the voting booth. In fact you are protesting twice - the party which is the least objectionable will win and you will get to voice who you really support.

It is too bad that our election system is set up that way. But so far I have not seen a way to fix it.

I am afraid that even if Hillary decides not to run we will not have another candidate who will. Other than Bernie I have not heard anyone say they want to run against her.

And your finao sentence leads to this question: Why in the past, apart from sitting veeps, every prominent Dems contenders hard viable opponents and not her? Precisely: why seems everyone so...afraid...to challenge her???

Was that really so hard for you to comprehend?

She doesn't want to campaign? Where do you see that?

Will a primary be set up? Are you kidding me!

Hillary Clinton is not popular among SOME progressive and grassroots Dems in the netroots echo chamber

Those progressive people are NOT in the majority....

she has screwed up every chance she had, and had plenty of help from Bill.
she is perceived as EVERYTHING except what we all need from a decent President in this desperate country.
to put her against Jeb is to fail as much as you can.
a REAL Republican power wielding monster versus a lady who cant keep her husband's faith?
dream on you fools.

HRC is not a font of inspiration to the netroots, no, but she's well-positioned to get the nomination, clearly wants the job, has good connections, and would be acceptable. Biden is also well-positioned but I can't tell how serious he is about challenging HRC so I'll wait and see what happens but at the moment it looks like Hill has the best chance of winning, and frankly that counts for a lot.

I'll vote my conscience.

Expressing FACTS and OPINION witch goes against the party Third Wayers's, and corpmedias'orthodoxy is now a try to intimidate now??

Just not your own facts.

Try to learn to read between the lones sometimes. It can be useful.

are mistaken and their lack of representing the people has left me a gerrymandered voter. I have nothing to lose so they can no longer influence me. Hense, I will vote my conscience no matter the chances they say the candidate of my choosing is perceived of having. I'm not for Clinton.

crosses both parties!

Hillary to Bill Richardson regarding Barack Obama:
"He can't win, Bill. He cannot win."
link: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2008/04/candidate-clint/

It would behoove Democrats to stop parroting the Clinton admonition that nobody else can win. It's bullshit, then and now.

besides it would be fun to watch more exploding right winger heads.

Barbara Lee speaks for me like when she cast the lone vote against the AUMF.

Just as they're starting to do already.

The media wants and needs a horse race.

and won't get serious about ripping her to shreds until she has it locked up. Then you'll see some real adversity from that quarter.

She will quickly go from miles ahead and inevitable to "all hands on deck" and facing an uphill battle.

They will want Iowa or New Hampshire to go to someone else, Sanders, Warren, Reich, Webb, whoever decides to put their hat in. Indeed, if she were to not win any of those caucuses with more than a 20 point lead they will then use that to bolster the idea that she can't win against a Republican in the general.

It won't help that she'd be dropping bombs here or there with faux pas and other misworded statements which will be scrutinized to the death and chopped up and spit out 100x worse than Al Gore's message was destroyed.

They will focus on clothing, age, makeup, hairstyles, and femininity. Too feminine is weak, not feminine enough is creepy.

these years. The evil ones must be voted out of office at the local and state levels. PERIOD!