Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 04:56 PM Dec 2014

Judge gave all of York PA city schools to these guys from Florida?? Frightening.

The city of York, Pennsylvania is set to make all of its schools for-profit charter schools. It wasn't exactly their choice. A court sealed the deal.

In what appears to be a last-ditch effort to carry out a two-year-old plan to turn all of York’s schools over to for-profit charter corporation Charter Schools USA, Pennsylvania’s Department of Education filed a petition in a York County court earlier this month to take away almost all local control from the school board, and put the district in the “receivership” of state-appointed York education official David Meckley.

Meckley, a local businessman who once served on the board of a nearby school district, was appointed in 2012 to oversee York’s financially beleaguered school system under a 2012 law that allowed the state to appoint “recovery officers” for any school districts with significant debt. His plan for York involves a slew of concessions from the district, from teacher layoffs to extracurricular cutbacks. But the most controversial part is the handing over of the entire operation of the district to Charter Schools USA.

While placing struggling school districts in state control is relatively common across the U.S., a state has only converted an entire school district to a charter system once before — in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.


Well, these are the guys who will profit.

From Coral Springs Talk back in March.

Charter Schools USA Founder Sets Sail for Riches

Charter Schools USA founder Jonathan Hage and his first mate Edward Pozzuoli, attorney for Charter Schools USA who is also president of the law firm Tripp Scott, have registered a yacht under the name of “Fishin’ 4 Schools” as well as formed an LLC under the same name.


Hage and Pozzuoli’s yacht in back of Hage’s Coral Ridge Country Club home in Fort Lauderdale.

This begs the question: What other assets do they own that are hidden under aliases?

Charter schools are public schools that receive state tax dollars, but function with their own boards of directors and enjoy substantial independence from state and local regulations. Charter Schools USA is a for-profit company which operates 58 schools in several states, including Florida, for a combined 48,000 students, however, both Hage and Pozzuoli send their children to Pine Crest Schools – a private school located in Fort Lauderdale.

There are big dollars in those students numbers. If Hage and Pozzuoli make $100 off each of those 48,000 students, that would be a $4.8 million dollar annual payday.


They later put the Yacht up for sale for $349,500.

As Jersey Jazzman points out at his blog...Charter Schools USA have not exactly set a shining example in Florida.

Our shining local examples in Hillsborough County are owned by Charter Schools USA. My first glimpse of Winthrop Charter School in Riverview in November of 2011 was during a scheduled visit with then Rep. Rachel Burgin. When told the two story brick building was a charter school, I was mystified. The site on which it was built was purchased from John Sullivan by Ryan Construction Company, Minneapolis, MN. From research done by the League of Women Voters of Florida all school building purchases ultimately owned and managed by for-profit Charter Schools USA are initiated by Ryan Construction. The Winthrop site was sold to Ryan Co. in March, 2011 for $2,206,700. In September, 2011 the completed 50,000 square foot building was sold to Red Apple Development Company, LLC for $9,300,000 titled as are all schools managed by Charter Schools USA. Red Apple Development is the school development arm of Charter Schools USA. We, tax payers of Hillsborough County, have paid $969,000 and $988,380 for the last two years to Charter Schools USA in lease fees! [emphasis mine]

And what kind of performance have the good people of Florida received for all of that money?

The chain was considered high-performing until this year. And on Tuesday the Orange School Board voted 7-0 to deny its applications for three new campuses.

Because charters are publicly funded per pupil, Charter Schools USA would receive about $27 million a year to run the three schools at capacity if approved.

"Their performance in Orange County is abysmally poor," board Chairman Bill Sublette said of the Renaissance schools. "They're underperforming the schools in the area that they're drawing from. How can we look taxpayers in the eye and approve them?"




56 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Judge gave all of York PA city schools to these guys from Florida?? Frightening. (Original Post) madfloridian Dec 2014 OP
How many of York's parents know this? annabanana Dec 2014 #1
It's my understanding from a poster that they are fighting back. madfloridian Dec 2014 #4
The parents had no say. The state acted unilaterally. NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #45
Naked theft. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #2
Seems that way. madfloridian Dec 2014 #7
And in som places <cough> Indiana<cough>..... Adrahil Dec 2014 #13
how is taking public dollars for private business legal belzabubba333 Dec 2014 #3
Ask the military industrial complex. progressoid Dec 2014 #5
I am thinking "legal" doesn't matter in the world of ed reform. madfloridian Dec 2014 #6
Most excellent post. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 #8
Thanks so much. madfloridian Dec 2014 #9
Have you been following the give away of Ireland's water system? dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 #11
No, I hadn't, but now I will. Isn't Christie doing that in NJ also? madfloridian Dec 2014 #28
"Public-private partnership" Boreal Dec 2014 #15
And the "private" part of the partnership has all the money. madfloridian Dec 2014 #43
It's the unholy alliance Boreal Dec 2014 #44
"Public risk for private profit." Well said. madfloridian Dec 2014 #52
Reader Poll: Do You Approve of the Private Takeover of York City Schools? madfloridian Dec 2014 #10
67% No, 33% yes. nt Mnemosyne Dec 2014 #12
The best explanation mainstreetonce Dec 2014 #14
Actually I have not heard a single Democratic leader be against them. madfloridian Dec 2014 #20
Gov.-Elect Tom Wolf & other leaders re: York schools takeover blue neen Dec 2014 #24
Thanks. madfloridian Dec 2014 #25
Kick & Rec FloriTexan Dec 2014 #16
Thank you. How's the weather there. madfloridian Dec 2014 #21
soon it will be an automatic disqualifier for anyone trying to get into college Javaman Dec 2014 #17
Amerika is fucked up. SoapBox Dec 2014 #18
The only way this gets turned around is by pain.. busterbrown Dec 2014 #19
Something like a famine and people dying in the streets might do it eventually Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #40
africa & india have had famine and people dying in the streets for millenia. so far, it hasn't NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #46
Yes, but this is Ameicka. Brown people dont register on the consciousness. When white people start Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #50
PA folks need to follow these links to probably illegal shenanigans. madfloridian Dec 2014 #22
Phony tests result in "take-over" scores. Yet NEVER ONCE have I heard or read of CURRICULUM details. WinkyDink Dec 2014 #23
once they privatize all the schools, we'll see the true dumbing down of america. spanone Dec 2014 #26
I am inclined to agree. madfloridian Dec 2014 #39
k&r Starry Messenger Dec 2014 #27
Thanks for posting Madfloridian. I think I am going to have to throw up now. DebJ Dec 2014 #29
I heard they have to re-apply for the jobs they already have. This is so personal for you. madfloridian Dec 2014 #42
The Banksters are moving into Education. Octafish Dec 2014 #30
Local editorial here DebJ Dec 2014 #31
Wow, thanks for that madfloridian Dec 2014 #33
"Yet while they have no say in the matter, city property owners' tax dollars NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #47
Reprehensible. Just a flat out scary world to bring a child into this is. TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #32
Reprehensible is a very good word for this. madfloridian Dec 2014 #41
This reminds e of the judge who sent children to his private prison malaise Dec 2014 #34
Well that was in scummy Pa too. I hate this state. Hate it. DebJ Dec 2014 #35
Health insurance costs are crazy malaise Dec 2014 #37
Kick FloriTexan Dec 2014 #36
I wonder what the kickback is. nt roody Dec 2014 #38
..... madfloridian Dec 2014 #48
I'm wondering what his combined kickbacks are DebJ Dec 2014 #51
Appeal stalls state takeover...fingers crossed. madfloridian Dec 2014 #49
Link to more PA problems with rich people buying schools. madfloridian Dec 2014 #53
you can be an active mover in the dumbing down of america barbtries Dec 2014 #54
Appreciate the Tweets madfloridian Dec 2014 #55
Because fucking bullshit like this continues to happen joeglow3 Dec 2014 #56

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
4. It's my understanding from a poster that they are fighting back.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 05:11 PM
Dec 2014

But big money talks so loudly it's hard to hear ordinary people.

 

NewDeal_Dem

(1,049 posts)
45. The parents had no say. The state acted unilaterally.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 03:24 AM
Dec 2014

Pennsylvania’s Department of Education filed a petition in a York County court earlier this month to take away almost all local control from the school board, and put the district in the “receivership” of state-appointed York education official David Meckley.

Meckley, a local businessman who once served on the board of a nearby school district, was appointed in 2012 to oversee York’s financially beleaguered school system under a 2012 law that allowed the state to appoint “recovery officers” for any school districts with significant debt. His plan for York involves a slew of concessions from the district, from teacher layoffs to extracurricular cutbacks. But the most controversial part is the handing over of the entire operation of the district to Charter Schools USA.

While placing struggling school districts in state control is relatively common across the U.S., a state has only converted an entire school district to a charter system once before — in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
13. And in som places <cough> Indiana<cough>.....
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 06:41 PM
Dec 2014

Corrupt government officials are funneling all the profits they can to these con men.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
9. Thanks so much.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 06:05 PM
Dec 2014

I can not believe these things are happening in America. All contracts negated, all rules ignored....just one big hostile takeover with help of courts.

Unbelievable.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
11. Have you been following the give away of Ireland's water system?
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 06:30 PM
Dec 2014

Made worse by the fact that apparently Ireland has had free water all this time.
Well, the Gov. sold the water system to a private for profit company.
The Irish, never ones to quietly ignore violations, are up in arms, as they should be.

There seems to be a deliberate global intent to sell off as much money making opportunities in various countries as can be done.

Now OUR Gov is selling off the Indian lands, for mineral extraction.

 

Boreal

(725 posts)
15. "Public-private partnership"
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 07:02 PM
Dec 2014

i.e., fascism, which the president supports. All of these trade agreements include clauses shifting public assets to private entities and even have provisions making it illegal to transfer these stolen assets back to the public!


An aside: One of the reasons neoliberals are gunning for Putin is because of recovering public assets looted during the collapse of the USSR. That's how the oligarchs were made (in Ukraine, as well).

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
43. And the "private" part of the partnership has all the money.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 02:19 AM
Dec 2014

The public part just goes along for the ride....esp. in the case of education.

 

Boreal

(725 posts)
44. It's the unholy alliance
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 02:56 AM
Dec 2014

between government and the well connected. One scratches the other's back. Actually, the government has a shitload of money - ours - and they transfer it to their private sector buddies. Public risk for private profit.

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
14. The best explanation
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 06:54 PM
Dec 2014

I ever heard against the Charter School concept came from Hillary about ten years ago.
She better still be against them or she will not get my vote,

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
20. Actually I have not heard a single Democratic leader be against them.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 07:20 PM
Dec 2014

If anyone knows of one, let me know.

Here's more about Hillary's stance from The New Republic:

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117989/hillary-clintons-education-policy-other-implications-2016

Where Hillary Clinton Stands

To some degree, Clinton has sought to triangulate between the two education camps in her party. She collected the American Federation of Teachers’ endorsement in 2007, pledging to “protect the right of workers to organize and bargain collectively.” On the campaign trail, she decried standardized tests (which provide much of the data reformers see as critically important), asking, “How much creativity are we losing? How much of our children’s passion is being killed?” However, like her husband, she’s been a steady backer of charter schools. She’s been open to linking teacher pay to student performance, though she prefers that student achievement be measured and bonuses be distributed on a schoolwide basis—not to individually successful teachers.

But Clinton’s future positions on education may have less to do with her past and more to do with the current political environment. For a variety of reasons—scorching conservative opposition, congressional inaction, implementation snafus, etc.—the Obama administration’s reforms have been extremely controversial. While opposition to the Common Core is both more complicated and less widespread than usually reported, it’s emblematic of a weakening American appetite for national education initiatives.

blue neen

(12,322 posts)
24. Gov.-Elect Tom Wolf & other leaders re: York schools takeover
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 07:49 PM
Dec 2014

From Wolf spokesman Jeff Sheridan:

"Gov.-elect Wolf knows that schools across Pennsylvania have been starved for resources over the last four years and our children are being put at a disadvantage. As a result, district like York have been forced to the brink of financial collapse. Gov.-elect Wolf will make education his top priority by working to restore funding cuts and providing adequate resources so school districts can deliver on the promise of a high-quality public education for all Pennsylvanians."

From Schreiber:

"Today, the York County Court declared the York City School District in receivership, a move that could lead to the privatization of the entire school district to a for-profit charter school, an action that has never before been done in Pennsylvania.

"The ruling from the judge notes that the court does not have the authority to consider what the receiver will do when appointed. Further, the School Code does not permit the court to inquire whether the recovery plan is good or not or if it is in the best interest of YCSD or the citizens. The Court can ONLY weigh in on the financial stability of the district and whether the petition for receivership filed by PA Department of Education (PDE) was arbitrary or capricious."

"If this is solely about the financial stability of the YCSD, then I would absolutely argue that the district's financial stability was disrupted by Gov. Corbett and PDE. The governor's policies disproportionately and negatively impacted the YCSD, i.e. elimination of the state reimbursement to districts for charters schools, moratorium on the construction reimbursements promised to districts, etc. YCSD was pushed into recovery by PDE and now that has led to receivership."

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2014/12/gov-elect_tom_wolf_other_leade.html

Outgoing Republican Governor Tom Corbett's policies were disastrous for Pennsylvania schools.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
17. soon it will be an automatic disqualifier for anyone trying to get into college
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 07:09 PM
Dec 2014

when they state that they went to school in York.

libertarian wet dream of stupidity.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
19. The only way this gets turned around is by pain..
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 07:11 PM
Dec 2014

So, In my opinion we deserve what we get.. If we get a republican nut job as Pres. and the House, Senate and White house is also controlled by Repub. extremists, fuck it, we deserve it..

 

NewDeal_Dem

(1,049 posts)
46. africa & india have had famine and people dying in the streets for millenia. so far, it hasn't
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 03:36 AM
Dec 2014

helped.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
50. Yes, but this is Ameicka. Brown people dont register on the consciousness. When white people start
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 09:05 AM
Dec 2014

to openly starve here then it would be different...maybe.

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
29. Thanks for posting Madfloridian. I think I am going to have to throw up now.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:32 PM
Dec 2014

My husband is a recently-retired York City School teacher.
All of our friends are teachers.

If they can get re-employed by the Charter, they will be offered the generous salary, most likely, based on our other charter
schools, of about $35,000 a year. The Charter school York just booted out never kept a teacher more than 3 years and didn't
ever give raises. Booted out for misuse of public funds, failure to follow procedures for special ed children, etc. Nauseating.
Performance on the stupid tests: worse than York City public schools.

Masters degrees in education. 10, 15 20, 25 years of giving their all to the students.

God damn you Corbett damn you to hell. 31 more days and he is out of here; don't know that the new governor can
do anything about this though.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
42. I heard they have to re-apply for the jobs they already have. This is so personal for you.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 01:23 AM
Dec 2014

So sorry. I don't understand how these guys ever got the power to just fire all the teachers and make them re-apply. But it's going on all over the country.

Like you this all makes me sick to my stomach.

It's been defended way too long because it's the policy of this administration, and now it may be too late to change things.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
30. The Banksters are moving into Education.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:42 PM
Dec 2014

Privatization of York Schools represents just another bust-out for the raiders to turn.

Thank you for the heads-up, madfloridian! These are fascist times.

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
31. Local editorial here
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:51 PM
Dec 2014

Meckley, a Spring Garden Township businessman who has led the district's financial recovery process for two years now, intends to convert all eight schools to charters operated by a for-profit company, Charter Schools USA.

Such a conversion has never been tried in Pennsylvania, and the company's plan for York City appears half-baked.

For instance, in response to questions submitted by The York Dispatch, a company representative showed limited knowledge of the district's student population and couldn't even describe plans for the 21 percent of students with special needs.

The community clearly opposes the plan. Yet while they have no say in the matter, city property owners' tax dollars now will be used not only for education but to boost the profits of Charter Schools USA.


http://www.yorkdispatch.com/breaking/ci_27222739/editorial-york-city-schools-fight-isnt-over?source=pkg

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
33. Wow, thanks for that
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:55 PM
Dec 2014

This paragraph so true.

The community clearly opposes the plan. Yet while they have no say in the matter, city property owners' tax dollars now will be used not only for education but to boost the profits of Charter Schools USA.
 

NewDeal_Dem

(1,049 posts)
47. "Yet while they have no say in the matter, city property owners' tax dollars
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 03:41 AM
Dec 2014

now will be used... to boost the profits of Charter Schools USA"


It reminds me of Obamacare's gift to insurance corporations.
York's gift to Charter Schools USA.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
34. This reminds e of the judge who sent children to his private prison
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:58 PM
Dec 2014

Wonder if he has shares in the business

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
35. Well that was in scummy Pa too. I hate this state. Hate it.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:08 PM
Dec 2014

And soon, my husband and I may be stuck here, while all of our friends are forced to move elsewhere.

You just can't afford a mortgage and a family on $35,000 a year and paying over $6000 a year for health insurance.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
37. Health insurance costs are crazy
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:40 PM
Dec 2014

The truth is that there are problems everywhere - too many elected officials are owned by the greedy

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
51. I'm wondering what his combined kickbacks are
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 09:28 AM
Dec 2014

from the fracking industry + charter schools.

I'm sure Corbett will never want for anything. Bastid.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
49. Appeal stalls state takeover...fingers crossed.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 08:53 AM
Dec 2014
http://www.yorkdispatch.com/ci_27220650/appeal-stalls-state-takeover-york-city-schools

A judge's ruling last week gave David Meckley nearly all authority over the York City School District.

But the Spring Garden Township man said Monday that he will wait until an appeal of the ruling is settled in Commonwealth Court before taking any decisive actions as the district's receiver.

For example, Meckley said he's not entirely sure what might occur at the next school board meeting on Monday, Jan. 12.

"My understanding, until there's a clear path, we would have business as usual," he said.


So keep publicizing the heck out of this thing.

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
54. you can be an active mover in the dumbing down of america
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 02:41 PM
Dec 2014

and get rich at the same time. what's not to like?

grrr

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
55. Appreciate the Tweets
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 03:36 PM
Dec 2014

They are important because it means it is getting read. Got several new followers because of it.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Judge gave all of York PA...