Remember, the criteria is that the deceased has not passed on the genes.

Seems like at least one (the one that pulled the trigger) may have been hers. Oh well - another future NRA member.

In one news report, she was described as a "nuclear scientist".

Idaho is 42 by rank for violent crimes. A virtual desert of any justification at all for GOING TO THE FUCKING SUPER MARKET LOCKED AND LOADED.

What the fuck is wrong with people?

so afraid that's she's carrying a handgun with the safety off.

People are loosing their fu_king minds with these guns.

We get letters to the editor proclaiming that anywhere in the state that prohibits guns is just itchin' to be a free-fire zone. We got one about the hospital - yes, someone wants to pack heat IN THE HOSPITAL. Buffalo Wild Wings (it's a nationwide chain of sports bars that sells wings for $2 apiece - I went to the one in Spokane before they opened the one in Coeur d'Alene and left when I noticed they were selling six wings for $12...I do not give a rat's ass how good your wings are, they ain't worth two bucks apiece!) put up a No Guns sign and you'd have thought from the commentary that BWW hired a guy with an Uzi to stand next to the door and cut people in half if they aren't dressed hip enough. The city council had a law against carrying guns at the 4th of July Parade because of the Aryan Nations, and all these people are freaking out about how there's going to be a huge firefight - that there has NEVER been before - if the gun prohibition wasn't lifted. And I'm sitting here thinking, "when did this place become Detroit?" Yeah, we have drive-by shootings on Sherman Avenue and firebombings on Government Way every freaking day, it's only right that everyone in town needs to buy an M-60 machine gun to protect themselves and the things they hold most dear...like, you know, all the other guns they're packing at the time.

and we have a similar problem.

Pretty much the only thing that gets me through this endless run of senseless gun deaths just sayin

no...but according to the pro gun argument, if there are no guns we still kill people.

A very dry smile here

You see, if she had a second gun in a hip holster, she could have whipped it out and shot the toddler and saved herself.

in case its necessary.

Or, maybe its her fault for not having a second toddler with a gun who would have been the good toddler and could have shot the other toddler. Because the only solution to a bad toddler with a gun is a good toddler with a gun!

There has to be a moar gunz angle to this dammit!

of the shopping cart, you know, the part where you put the kid- and it was sitting NEXT to the 2 year old, who was also in that part of the cart.




I don't mean to speak ill of the recently deceased, but WHAT KIND OF FUCKING MASSIVE MORON WOULD DO THAT?

I had 2 sons...I am trying to figure out how a 2 year old picks up a gun and manages to hold and shoot it.
They have tiny hands and weak wrists.

But, I'm not a gun guy.

It seems like several incredibly stupid moves had to be combined to obtain this end result.

The only way to stop a toddler with a gun...is to have a good guy (or gal) with a gun.

But...oops! The toddler took her gun....

Oh well.

'Murka....Fuck Ya!!

Basic fault tolerance: never have a single point of failure.

and what the trigger pull was.

Was she carrying it single action?

A two year old has how much strength in their fingers?

I'm befuddled about why someone would carry with 4 kids, who was she afraid of?

Northern Idaho. Up in these parts, no big surprise whether they were visiting or not. I lived up in that area for a year, too many bigots and gun nuts. Hayden and north are pretty RWNJ dense... seems like most carry openly or concealed.

I'm just trying to picture a 2 year old taking mommys 380 out of her purse and pulling the d/a trigger or pulling her 38 cal revolver and pulling that trigger.

It would seem to me that she was carrying in her purse a cocked weapon. No freaking sense at all.

Up in that neck o' the woods the more high powered and automatic, the better. I can envision the child possibly not actually picking up the gun but managing to pull the trigger while grabbing it still nestled in the purse thus the kid would not need to be actually picking it up and aiming. Might be the reason she died immediately, if it was an abdomen wound at close range.

But I guess we'll have to wait to see what the press is given for info to know if we'll ever know.

Who would have ever guessed.

Obviously, the mother of the child didn't follow basic gun safety rules.

That poor child

his dumb feckin' mother ruined his life.

another reason I like a manual safety or long DA pull on my CCW's

Women who choose to purse carry they really need to invest in a proper conceal carry purse.

A self defense firearm can only save/protect lives if the owner is only operator that has access.

20 something old woman could no more of used a gun for self defense or to save/protect lives if her life depended on it.

Oh it did....my bad.

I'm sorry for her, although it was her own damn fault, but it would have been so much worse if the toddler had killed one of the other kids.

Says she needs to be armed and ready to fire in 2 secs. Now she's also ruined her child's life by depriving him of his mother.

I wish the gun-humpers would just shoot each other and leave the kids and the rest of us alone.

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Mods agreed this has become a national news story.

National news is national news, even if it involves guns.

Seems someone jumped the . . . wait, never mind with that phrase.

Seems someone erroneously got ahead of themselves in locking that thread.

That was before it was picked up by all of the MSM outlets.

And more often to people with bad judgment.

I don't know much about guns but I do know that 2 year olds get into EVERYTHING. It would have only been a matter of time before one of these kids would have found the gun.

Is a good toddler with a gun.

Did she think she was going to meet armed resistence at Walmart????

The Ruskies are coming.

Fill in the blank.

they don't even have a clue how tone deaf they are.

The frightened American, must be armed to go shopping......

none of her children were shot and killed.

Stupid stupid mom. I am sorry that she paid the ultimate price for her stupidity.

How the heck could she allow her two year old child to sit next to a purse with a loaded gun?

I hope she exercised better judgment and safety awareness at work.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2014/dec/30/woman-shot-hayden-idaho-wal-mart/

..."She grew up as Veronica Hendricks in Harrison, where she was the 2004 valedictorian of Kootenai High School. She attended North Idaho College, graduated from the University of Idaho, and went to work for the Idaho National Laboratory in Idaho Falls, which supports the U.S. Department of Energy in nuclear and energy research and national defense.
........
Rutledge was a hard worker who “wanted to know science,” said Idaho National Laboratory senior chemical Engineer Vince Maio, who worked with Rutledge on a research paper about using glass ceramic to store nuclear waste. "....

Guess she should have taken the semi-automatic rifle instead. I imagine she was saving that for trips to the donut shop.

Because we have to "do something" and "send a message" about gun violence!