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Logical

(22,457 posts)
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 07:26 PM Dec 2014

Exoneration!! Rickey Dale Wyatt was wrongly identified by three different rape victims.


Meet America’s 325th DNA exoneration

On the request of the District Attorney’s Office, a Dallas County judge today entered a court order finding Rickey Dale Wyatt innocent of a rape for which he served nearly 31 years. Working closely with the Dallas District Attorney’s Conviction Integrity Unit, the Innocence Project secured Wyatt’s release back on January 4, 2012 based on DNA evidence and the failure of the prosecution to turn over evidence pointing to Wyatt’s innocence. Since his release, the Conviction Integrity Unit has conducted a thorough re-investigation of the case and now agrees that Wyatt is innocent of the crime. Wyatt is the 325th person in the U.S. to have been exonerated by DNA evidence.

Although there are many unanswered questions about the reliability of the identification procedures used, three separate victims identified Wyatt of sexual assaults police believe were committed by the same person that occurred in the South Dallas neighborhood on November 1, 1980, December 19, 1980 and January 6, 1981 with the same modus operandi. Wyatt maintained his innocence from the beginning and turned down a plea bargain of a recommended five year sentence. Despite large inconsistencies between Wyatt and the victim’s original description, Wyatt was convicted of the November 1, 1980 crime and sentenced to 99 years in prison. He was never tried for the other two crimes.

More at:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/12/23/this-week-in-innocence-meet-americas-325th-dna-exoneration/
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Exoneration!! Rickey Dale Wyatt was wrongly identified by three different rape victims. (Original Post) Logical Dec 2014 OP
Says a lot about the power of the prosecutor. Downwinder Dec 2014 #1
Since it was TX, a miracle he wasn't executed Doctor_J Dec 2014 #2
+1000. I Guarantee 1000s of people wanted this man executed. So sad. nt Logical Dec 2014 #3
And the best news of all, Dallas County? gratuitous Dec 2014 #4
And the worst part, they stopped looking for the real criminal. nt Logical Dec 2014 #5
exactly. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #6
Truly a gift that keeps on giving gratuitous Dec 2014 #8
If it was one person, he was\is a serial rapist. There's a possibility the rapist may be serving KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #15
And if he is now in prison gratuitous Dec 2014 #18
Yeah, please don't mistake me. This situation is fucked 9 ways from Friday. No two ways KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #19
Or, since he got away with those three crimes, maybe he has continued to get away with tblue37 Dec 2014 #21
Yeah, that is a worst-case scenario but also one that must be considered. - nt KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #30
Somehow prosecutors emphasis needs to be switched from convictions to correct justice. A Simple Game Dec 2014 #7
There are two obvious responses. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #25
Yes but clearly... sendero Dec 2014 #29
prosecutors already have a problem with trying cases because TorchTheWitch Dec 2014 #26
The discussion about whether it is better for a guilty person to go free or an A Simple Game Dec 2014 #27
DNA sampling should be the first step police take after a rape. DNA Zorra Dec 2014 #9
Pretty much, it is. Igel Dec 2014 #12
But aren't most of those rape kits just piled up somewhere not being analyzed? nt tblue37 Dec 2014 #22
there was no DNA in the '80's when this guy was convicted TorchTheWitch Dec 2014 #24
And some still support capital punishment (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #10
It is disgusting that any Democrat would support the death penalty. Nt Logical Dec 2014 #11
Or any person for that matter Major Nikon Dec 2014 #28
Hopefully Texas will have to pay him some big bucks. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #13
I'm happy and furious Boreal Dec 2014 #14
Eyewitness testimony isn't the most reliable mythology Dec 2014 #16
Should be as inadmissable Boreal Dec 2014 #17
Both are AA.... Deuce Dec 2014 #20
Echoed 1step Dec 2014 #23
31 years stolen... BklnDem75 Dec 2014 #31

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. And the best news of all, Dallas County?
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:19 PM
Dec 2014

Three rapes are now unsolved crimes, and the perpetrator (or perpetrators) has never been charged, never been tried, never served a minute in jail.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
8. Truly a gift that keeps on giving
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 11:03 PM
Dec 2014

But of course if we deplore prosecutorial misconduct, that means we want all criminals everywhere to get away with it. The transitive property as applied to military and law enforcement.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
15. If it was one person, he was\is a serial rapist. There's a possibility the rapist may be serving
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 01:09 AM
Dec 2014

time for other crimes for which he was correctly apprehended and prosecuted.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
18. And if he is now in prison
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 01:44 AM
Dec 2014

Wasn't it nice of the Dallas County prosecutor to screw up and allow him to continue raping women? I wonder how those later victims feel about that?

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
19. Yeah, please don't mistake me. This situation is fucked 9 ways from Friday. No two ways
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 01:53 AM
Dec 2014

about it. I meant only to suggest that serial rapists don't usually curtail their behavior until they are either apprehended, die or are otherwise incapacitated, based on what I know. If this serial rapist held true to form, there's at least a possibility that he was apprehended at some point for a different offense.

The thing that makes me most sad about this story, aside from the fact that Mr. Wyatt essentially paid with his life for a prosecutor's zeal, is that women who have been victims of rape or sexual assault may feel still more reluctance to come forward. Between this story and the Rolling Stone UVA screw-up, rape victims are being forced to deal with a society doubting their ordeals even more. That is really something that bugs the fuck out of me.

tblue37

(65,403 posts)
21. Or, since he got away with those three crimes, maybe he has continued to get away with
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 02:33 AM
Dec 2014

similar crimes for 31 years, never being apprehended.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
7. Somehow prosecutors emphasis needs to be switched from convictions to correct justice.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:28 PM
Dec 2014

Wouldn't it be better to be able to say I got it right instead of I got a conviction?

Perhaps we should set a limit, 3 innocent people in jail and you get to take their place for a year... right next to all the rest of the people you put in there.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
25. There are two obvious responses.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 05:32 AM
Dec 2014

The first response is to say that that is what judges and juries are for.

I think the adversarial model of trial is probably better than the inquisitorial model you're advocating.

What arguably *should* be changed in the USA, though, is reducing the prosecutor's ability to control things like plea bargains, and giving he judge more influence.



The second response is to point out that (with rare, corrupt exceptions) prosecutors only take cases to trial when they're pretty certain the person they're prosecuting is guilty. Prosecutors hate losing cases, and if they're not confident that the evidence proves guilt beyond reasonable doubt, they're unlikely to move forwards.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
29. Yes but clearly...
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 08:57 AM
Dec 2014

... prosecutors are OFTEN wrong and the entire trial is stacked against the defendant, who is typically represented by an overworked and not that infrequently incompetent defender who is like a pea shooter going up against a cannon.

The more cynical version of myself would claim the prosecutor really doesn't care about who committed the crime, but only that there is a conviction (this is demonstrably true in some cases) and as usual those who are responsible for throwing innocent people in jail for WHATEVER reason have no negative consequence unless they happen to have a conscience which is not always the case.

And lastly, someone try to make the argument that these 3 witnesses were not coached. Not a chance, they were told "this is the guy" and they went along. Textbook.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
26. prosecutors already have a problem with trying cases because
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 05:50 AM
Dec 2014

they want a "slam dunk" and aren't satisfied that there's enough evidence to charge anyone. That's why there are so many cold cases piled up with the likely guilty person never getting charged though sometimes they do years and years later when a new prosecutor comes on that police can convince to revisit an old case.

Our justice system is already incredibly one-sided with all the advantages for the accused. Meanwhile victims of crimes are excluded from the system because all crimes are against the state and not the individual. That's why prosecutors not only don't have to consult victims when making plea deals they don't even have to tell them. Frankly, I hate the concept of plea deals.

There are FAR FAR FAR more guilty people walking around free than innocent people in jail given that enough evidence isn't found, enough evidence isn't found that's satisfactory for prosecutors that always want "slam dunks", that were never reported to begin with, that guilty people walked away from given the high standard of finding guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, etc.

Then there is also the fact that defense attorneys can be purchased rather then all of them working for the state like prosecutors are. It's abundantly apparent that if one can afford the best defense counsel they aren't even close to the same likelihood of getting convicted as the person that for lack of money has to use the state defense attorneys who are so underpaid and overworked most of their cases they don't even GET until the day before or even the day OF trial.

While prosecutors don't want to touch a case that isn't a "slam dunk" defense attorneys almost always defend the guilty and are thrilled when they win by putting a criminal back on the street especially when they get a huge pile of money for it.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
27. The discussion about whether it is better for a guilty person to go free or an
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 06:44 AM
Dec 2014

innocent person to be jailed can be for another time.

This:

the Innocence Project secured Wyatt’s release back on January 4, 2012 based on DNA evidence and the failure of the prosecution to turn over evidence pointing to Wyatt’s innocence.
seems to be all too common in the cases of innocent people being convicted. Lazy cops and lazy prosecutors often take away the "already incredibly one-sided with all the advantages for the accused." The "slam dunk" attitude is precisely what I say needs to go away and be replaced with doing the right thing. Suppression of evidence needs to be punished with mandatory jail time. These are people with life and death powers over other people, that is not to be taken lightly! These situations are not games to be won or lost. These people need to be held to a higher standard, cops included.

You may not realize it but the system is supposed to give the benefit of the doubt to the accused. Victims of crimes should not have input into a trial process other than as a witness for obvious reasons; the system is supposed to be unbiased. The system was designed and refined for a couple hundred years and works reasonably well if everyone does their job and plays by the rules.

I always place myself into a situation, I have to wonder how I would feel to be unjustly jailed for 30 years. Would I spend that time happy with the fact that some guilty people are less likely to be free? if I am ever falsely accused of a crime I hope the prosecutor has more interest in justice than in another mark in their victory column.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
12. Pretty much, it is.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 12:59 AM
Dec 2014

But this was in 1980, when it wasn't.

Actually, though, DNA can be misinterpreted and can produce false positives--it's just not very likely except in exceptional circumstances.

However, once guilt's established as a fact, most of the wrangling on appeal then becomes legal and not factual.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
24. there was no DNA in the '80's when this guy was convicted
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 05:19 AM
Dec 2014

We already do just fine having qualified medical personnel doing the rape kit. The far larger problem these days is that they sit on the shelf for sometimes years before being tested. Apparently, no one cares very much about doing rape kit testing in a timely manner like the do testing evidence for other crimes.

There's also the problem of women not reporting the rape immediately or at all and showering before being tested which is entirely understandable but doesn't yield necessary evidence.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
13. Hopefully Texas will have to pay him some big bucks.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 01:01 AM
Dec 2014

It won't make up for lost time, but maybe it can give him a head start on a new life.

 

Boreal

(725 posts)
14. I'm happy and furious
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 01:03 AM
Dec 2014

31 years stolen from a mans life. Happy he's out and furious this happens so often. No way to compensate anyone for that but I hope he got millions (anyone know).

I'd be cool with keeping the death penalty for corrupt prosecutors and LE who rob others of their freedom and lives.

Very disturbing about the witnesses. Did they lie or actually believe he was the one? One thing is fore sure, eye witnesses are NOT reliable - unbelievable as that seems for victims who have been physically assaulted and looked at the perps but true.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
16. Eyewitness testimony isn't the most reliable
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 01:12 AM
Dec 2014

Especially if the witness is identifying somebody of a different race. I don't know if that's the case in this instance as I don't know the race of the victim or the man just released. But as the link below shows, even if the witness is identifying somebody of the same race, they are still only right 2 out of 3 times.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-race_effect

So my guess is that the victims didn't lie, but were mistaken.

BklnDem75

(2,918 posts)
31. 31 years stolen...
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 09:25 AM
Dec 2014

The prosecutors and police won't see a day in jail for withholding evidence that would have acquitted Wyatt. His daughter was 3 years old when he was arrested, now he's holding his grand baby. This is one shitty 'justice' system...

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